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Is it possible to use warp files to perform modulation in VBM? #1808

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JinDJsuper opened this issue Nov 21, 2024 · 1 comment
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Is it possible to use warp files to perform modulation in VBM? #1808

JinDJsuper opened this issue Nov 21, 2024 · 1 comment

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@JinDJsuper
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Ubuntu 20.04

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x86_64 (PC, Intel Mac, other Intel/AMD)

ANTs code version

ants-2.5.0

ANTs installation type

Downloaded Github release binaries

Summary of the problem

First, perform tissue segmentation on the original space images to obtain the gray matter segmentation images. Then, use ANTs to register the images to standard space and transform the gray matter images to the standard space. Next, use the generated warp files to compute the Jacobian determinant, and multiply it with the standard-space gray matter images to obtain modulated gray matter in the standard space. Finally, conduct VBM analysis on these images.

This method is similar to SPM's VBM pipeline. Since ANTs generally provides better segmentation and registration results for animal data compared to SPM, I would like to ask the experts: is this pipeline feasible?

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modulated standard space gm
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cookpa commented Nov 26, 2024

First, perform tissue segmentation on the original space images to obtain the gray matter segmentation images. Then, use ANTs to register the images to standard space and transform the gray matter images to the standard space. Next, use the generated warp files to compute the Jacobian determinant, and multiply it with the standard-space gray matter images to obtain modulated gray matter in the standard space. Finally, conduct VBM analysis on these images.

This method is similar to SPM's VBM pipeline. Since ANTs generally provides better segmentation and registration results for animal data compared to SPM, I would like to ask the experts: is this pipeline feasible?

This sounds reasonable to me. SPM analyses usually build in spatial smoothing before analysis in the standard space. I am not sure exactly when in the pipeline they smooth the images, but it's hopefully documented in the code and / or papers.

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