weird sounds through speaker after upgrade (Jumper T-Lite, older model)

[Nightreaver]

Is there an existing issue for this problem?

• I have searched the existing issues

What part of EdgeTX is the focus of this bug?

Transmitter firmware

Current Behavior

Turning on the radio starts making sounds through the speaker, the sound changes based on menu or model selection.

Sample video of the sound - https://youtu.be/YmXnmdUVQpA

Turning on "audio mute" will mute the audio for time being, but the summing/humming sound will always be in the background when any other sound plays.

There is seemingly no sound in the sys menu on Section 2 to7, only on Section 1 "Tools" if Model 1 is selected, but always when Model 2 is selected.
On Model 1 selection, the sounds will go quiet when backlight turns off, but not on Model 2.
The sound is different in Model1, Model Selection Menu and Model 2

Expected Behavior

Back at edgeTX 2.5 (tlite-20cdb40) there was no issue and the speaker was quiet even when playing sounds.

I have no idea why the sound changes based on model/menu selection.

Steps To Reproduce

Hard to tell, it seems I have an older model of Jumper T-Lite (SN around 20k) while newer models (Sn around 29k) dont have that issues (currently have both models)
My old model (both J4IN1) has the extension cable still going into the case (you need to open it to attach it) while the newer models have the connection plug "outside". So im speaking about the old model.

Version

2.10.5

Transmitter

Jumper T-Lite

Operating System (OS)

Windows

OS Version

10

Anything else?

I upgraded to 2.10.5 with SD-Card and Bootloader,

2.5 > 2.7.1 > 2.8.0 > 2.9.0 > 2.10.0 > 2.10.5

Somewhere in the middle, the sound started to appear.

[pfeerick]

I suspect by "newer model", you mean the T-Lite V2? As you say, the T-Lite needed to be opened up, whereas the T-Lite V2 has it externally accessible (like with the T-Pro and later designs). Noise from the audio usually relates to the RF head on the radio... does it go away if you don't have any RF (internal/external) enabled? If so, there isn't anything we can do about that, it is a hardware issue. Any other noise could be noise coming from the processor and power supply circuit, and the processor is updating the screen and settings multiple times a second while in the menus, hence why it can be busier and thus noisier in the menus. The T-Lite V2 does have an upgraded power supply circuit, so that may explain why it is quieter.

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On Thu, 31 Oct 2024, 2:28 am Steven Barthen, ***@***.***> wrote: Is there an existing issue for this problem? - I have searched the existing issues What part of EdgeTX is the focus of this bug? Transmitter firmware Current Behavior Turning on the radio starts making sounds through the speaker, the sound changed based on menu selection and model selection. Sample video of the sound - https://youtu.be/YmXnmdUVQpA Turning on "audio mute" will mute the audio for time being, but the summing/humming sound will always be in the background when any other sound plays. Expected Behavior Back at edgeTX 2.5 (tlite-20cdb40) there was no issue and the speaker was quiet. I have no idea why the sound changes based on model/menu selection. Steps To Reproduce Hard to tell, it seems i have an older model of Jumper T-Lite (SN around 20k) while newer models (Sn around 29k) dont have that issues. My old model (J4in1) has the extension cable still going into the case (you need to open it to attach it) while the newer models have the connection plug "outside". So im speaking about the old model. Version 2.10.5 Transmitter Jumper T-Lite Operating System (OS) Windows OS Version 10 Anything else? I upgraded to 2.10.5 with SD-Card and Bootloader, 2.5 > 2.7.1 > 2.8.0 > 2.9.0 > 2.10.0 > 2.10.5 Somewhere in the middle, the sound started to appear — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#5644>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABJ66KMCNIAEU6WMXX6UZC3Z6ECK7AVCNFSM6AAAAABQ4QLQM2VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43ASLTON2WKOZSGYZDINRVG4YDOMA> . You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[pfeerick]

Also, right around the time you mentioned, the "audio mute" option was added, defaulting to off. Whereas the prior behaviour was for it to be muted. So enabling that option "should" restore prior behaviour.

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On Thu, 31 Oct 2024, 6:59 am Peter Feerick, ***@***.***> wrote: I suspect by "newer model", you mean the T-Lite V2? As you say, the T-Lite needed to be opened up, whereas the T-Lite V2 has it externally accessible (like with the T-Pro and later designs). Noise from the audio usually relates to the RF head on the radio... does it go away if you don't have any RF (internal/external) enabled? If so, there isn't anything we can do about that, it is a hardware issue. Any other noise couple be noise coming from the processor and power supply circuit, and the processor is updating the screen and settings multiple times a second while in the menus, hence why it can be busier and thus noisier in the menus. The T-Lite V2 does have an upgraded power supply circuit, so that may explain why it is quieter. On Thu, 31 Oct 2024, 2:28 am Steven Barthen, ***@***.***> wrote: > Is there an existing issue for this problem? > > - I have searched the existing issues > > What part of EdgeTX is the focus of this bug? > > Transmitter firmware > Current Behavior > > Turning on the radio starts making sounds through the speaker, the sound > changed based on menu selection and model selection. > > Sample video of the sound - https://youtu.be/YmXnmdUVQpA > > Turning on "audio mute" will mute the audio for time being, but the > summing/humming sound will always be in the background when any other sound > plays. > Expected Behavior > > Back at edgeTX 2.5 (tlite-20cdb40) there was no issue and the speaker was > quiet. > > I have no idea why the sound changes based on model/menu selection. > Steps To Reproduce > > Hard to tell, it seems i have an older model of Jumper T-Lite (SN around > 20k) while newer models (Sn around 29k) dont have that issues. > My old model (J4in1) has the extension cable still going into the case > (you need to open it to attach it) while the newer models have the > connection plug "outside". So im speaking about the old model. > Version > > 2.10.5 > Transmitter > > Jumper T-Lite > Operating System (OS) > > Windows > OS Version > > 10 > Anything else? > > I upgraded to 2.10.5 with SD-Card and Bootloader, > > 2.5 > 2.7.1 > 2.8.0 > 2.9.0 > 2.10.0 > 2.10.5 > > Somewhere in the middle, the sound started to appear > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#5644>, or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABJ66KMCNIAEU6WMXX6UZC3Z6ECK7AVCNFSM6AAAAABQ4QLQM2VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43ASLTON2WKOZSGYZDINRVG4YDOMA> > . > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.Message > ID: ***@***.***> >

[xlongshu]

I have the same problem. How to solve it?

[Nightreaver]

According to the previous statement, you cannot as its hardware interference. turn on audio mute will solve it, or get a new/different controller

[OloTka]

I got the same issue. downgrading it to previous version removed that noise. How that could be this hardware interference did not appear with old firmware but just with the newest release?

[Nightreaver]

So with with version did ist start/stop ? In order to get it fixed we need to be a bit more precise

[pfeerick]

@OloTka did you enable SYS -> Hardware -> Audio mute? This will restore behaviour of old firmware (i.e. pre 2.9), whereby the audio amp is always disabled/muted when not actively in use. Previously this was done all the time, which introduces lag as there is a delay required when enabling/disabling the audio amp. Thus means fast running sounds like variometer beeps are clipped / laggy. Won't be an issue for general use. Option was introduced in 2.9 via #3703.