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Updated Mia-Platform page #173

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ugho16 commented Apr 3, 2024

Hi @FL303, when you have time can you please check this PR and let me know if there is anything to edit?
Thank you very much

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FL303 commented Apr 19, 2024

Hi @ugho16, thank you and sorry for my late reply.
Currently, the category and messaging are not really clear. The profile is nested under the "PaaS and DevOps Platforms" category, it is unclear how far a "suite of products for developing enterprise Internal Developer Platforms" would fit in here.

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Hi Florian, as I'm sure you can clearly understand from our website, customer stories, and other product and positioning material, our offering should not be nested under "PaaS and DevOps Platforms" but instead under "Platform tooling to build your IDP", since that is exactly what our product does. Actually, we've been calling ourselves a "platform builder" since years.

We're happy to submit a completely new request to make it clearer in any aspect that was eventually not so clear; but I believe it's important and just fair that we are presented in the adequate section and with the correct messaging, for the benefit of the community and the transparency of the website.

Thank you for your attention.
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FL303 commented May 8, 2024

Hi @nicocambiaso, thanks for the additional information. Which category in the tooling section would that be?
https://internaldeveloperplatform.org/platform-tooling/
Are there more platform builders competing with you?
On your home page you position yourself as an "An Internal Developer Platform (IDP) to streamline operations and simplify DevX" but you also reference the Gartner Report that claims Mia to be a portal. Shall we move the profile to the portal section?

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nicocambiaso commented May 8, 2024

Hi @FL303, we market Mia-Platform Console as a single product combining the capabilities of a Platform Orchestrator and of a Portal. The platform orchestration (as per Thoughtworks definition) is definitely the core, while the portal front-end is an extension — actually we know people who use Mia-Platform as the core platform orchestration and Backstage on top as a portal, for example.
I thus believe the correct section, considering the site webmap, is "Platform Orchestrators" (even though we're not particularly fans of that naming definition, hence we don't insist too much on the term in our messaging).
Let me know if this clarifies enough or if there's anything else I can do to help!
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FL303 commented May 8, 2024

@nicocambiaso could you please help me to find the section in docs where you explain your approach to dynamic configuration management, similar to Kratix promises or Humanitec Resource Definitions?
https://docs.kratix.io/main/guides/writing-a-promise
https://developer.humanitec.com/platform-orchestrator/resources/resource-definitions/

Another example would be how Massdriver handles infra and app configs (they call it bundles), see pages like following ones:
https://docs.massdriver.cloud/concepts/environments
https://docs.massdriver.cloud/bundles/configuration
https://docs.massdriver.cloud/concepts/connections

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Hi Florian,

you're right, the documentation is pretty extensive and it's not always so easy finding all the information one is looking for!
Here are some links that I believe can support a better understanding:

Let me know what do you think, if you find any information is missing we're available to integrate with other links and documents. I believe that you're doing a great job with this website and we really appreciate you being so thorough in verifying and positioning in the optimal way all the elements for the reference architecture.

Thank you!

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FL303 commented May 10, 2024

Hi @nicocambiaso, thanks for providing the links, I wouldn't have managed to find this info. Please give us some time to review your docs. Btw, it would be way easier if you would offer a free trial like others do.

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