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Request for new ontology [carolio] #2406
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Dear @samie3000, Thank you for your submission. The review will be executed as a two stage process.
Usually, the review will result in an opportunity for you to improve the ontology. When the reviewer believes the ontology is ready for presentation to the OBO Operations Committee, they will present your ontology during an OBO Operations Call. This gives other members of the committee the opportunity to assess your work. When a decision is reached by the committee you will be informed here on the issue tracker. The process can take any number of weeks or months, depending on the case at hand. Please inform us about any reasons you might have for increased urgency. You will be informed once your ontology is loaded in the OBO NOR Dashboard. Good luck! |
Dear @samie3000, Before going any further, the pre-registration checklist needs to be completed in full. In particular, some important OBO foundry principles need to be followed, such as:
Thank you |
Several of the fields in this issue weren't filled out correctly (e.g., contribution guidelines link, ontology downloads link) Based on the request, this ontology appears to explicitly overlap with existing OBO Foundry ontologies (HP/SYMP for symptoms, DOID/MONDO for diseases). Have you reached out to these ontologies to see if parts of yours would be able to be contributed there? |
@samie3000 I hope you saw the questions and suggestions above and will respond soon! |
Hello, my apologies for the late response. I'm managing the Carolio GitHub repository for samie3000. I believe the updated page and version of the ontology meets the requirements on the checklist and should be ready for review. Please let me know if there is anything further we need to do to move forward. We look forward to working with you throughout this process! |
In response to @msabanluc comment I have checked all checkboxes above which makes this ontology request move to the next stage (reviewer assignment @pfabry), unless any NOR pre-checking requests still fail. It is important that whoever reviews the ontology takes all comments, including the observations made by @pfabry and @cthoyt carefully into account during review. |
@msabanluc |
@msabanluc @samie3000 |
It appears that PURLs are encoded incorrectly. Can we please add this as a check to the NOR dashboard? most contributors get the same feedback
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That's a good point and I was actually writing a issue about this. I believe that the ID policy should specify that a |
@msabanluc @samie3000 |
@pfabry We will go ahead and address the the issues regarding the "open" principle as well as the incorrectly encoded URIs. Aside from the Thank you for the feedback! |
That's the main issue but you will find the guideline relative to forming identifiers here. |
@pfabry |
I think there are other things to address but these are the big ones for now (note that mine isn't an official OBO review, just a drive by curator here) |
@msabanluc Thank you for the update. Your ontology will now be reviewed by @handemcginty. |
@cthoyt
We've included the version IRI here: (https://github.com/TootooniLab/CaroliO/blob/050a97b7d714a733d03a7dbdeba55caef7e7b3cb/CaroliO.owl#L16)
For each version release, we have a basic (B) and applied (A) version, where the applied version includes more complex axioms to better reflect real world decision making in actual treatment, where the basic version follows the Open World Assumption and is suitable for ontologists and research. Do you have any suggestions for following semantic versioning while maintaining the applied vs basic releases?
We currently include these in the ontology as a placeholder. The goal is to contribute these to the respective existing ontologies as you mentioned and remove these. |
@handemcginty have you had a chance to take a look at this yet? |
@handemcginty Hi, I hope you are well! Do you have any updates on this? |
Caroli syndrome has been added to the DO, DOID:0081394. |
@msabanluc thanks for your patience during the review process and @cthoyt for your feedback. Another issue regarding the reuse of terms exists when you inject different inverse properties for existing properties, this is the case for your "treats" property. |
@handemcginty Thank you for your feedback! We've uploaded the updated file that address most of the issues listed by @cthoyt. They also address the issue regarding inverse property injection. These changes are not yet reflected in the 'applied' version, but will be shortly. Regarding placeholder terms, I'm aware of 'caroli syndrome' and 'variceal bleeding'. We are currently identifying any other terms that may fit in existing ontologies and hope to get back to you sometime next week. |
@handemcginty |
@handemcginty -- Hello Hande, can you please touch base on this ticket and provide feedback? Cheers, |
I wrote a script that checks for lexical matches between this proposal and existing ontologies in the OBO Foundry. Note that OBO Principle 10 "Commitment To Collaboration" states:
Below are the results. A case can be made that it's okay to duplicate NCIT terms since this is just an obo export of a resource that does not actually participate in the open community. Lexical matching returned results
Lexical matching returned no results
However, these have big overlap with MAXO and SYMP/HP, and should be considered to be submitted there. |
Thanks again @cthoyt for all your help during this review including the script you wrote to check the overlapping list of terms. @msabanluc I assume that you are still reviewing these terms and identifying overlapping terms. In the previous meeting, the operations committee agreed that we would ask you to create git issues for overlapping terms. We understand that there may be a delay in the creation of these terms in the target ontologies, however, lack of effort is against the OBO guidelines for accepting the ontology as is. |
Hi @handemcginty, thank you for the update. We've started reviewing these terms and will address terms overlapping with MAXO such as:
Can you please clarify what you mean by creating git issues for these? We believe the other CAROLIO terms listed are unique and do not overlap with the suggested terms. We've also contributed our definitions to ontology terms without existing definitions, such as: I will let you know when the updated version reflecting these changes is available. Thanks! |
Thank you so much for the update @msabanluc . What I meant by creating git issues is that we wanted to see git issues for requests for new term additions or edits to existing terms for the terms outlined previously. Thanks again and looking forward to your ping when you are ready. |
@msabanluc just wondering how this is going! |
@msabanluc Due to inactivity for the past two months, this issue will be closed. When you are ready, you are welcome to open this issue again. Thanks for your interest in submitting your ontology to OBO Foundry. |
Title
Caroli's Disease and Syndrome
Short Description
Ontology for Symptoms, Outcomes, and Treatment of Caroli's Disease and Syndrome
Description
We aim to present CaroliO, an ontology for Caroli's disease and syndrome, which increases the potentials of enhancing diagnosis and treatment of these rare liver conditions.
Identifier Space
CaroliO
License
CC-BY 4.0
Domain
biological systems
Source Code Repository
https://github.com/TootooniLab/CaroliO
Homepage
https://github.com/TootooniLab/CaroliO
Issue Tracker
https://github.com/TootooniLab/CaroliO/issues
Contribution Guidelines
https://github.com/TootooniLab/CaroliO
Ontology Download Link
https://github.com/TootooniLab/CaroliO
Contact Name
Mohammad Samie Tootooni
Contact Email
[email protected]
Contact GitHub Username
samie3000
Contact ORCID Identifier
0000-0001-7235-4914
Formats
Dependencies
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Intended Use Cases and/or Related Projects
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Data Sources
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Additional comments or remarks
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OBO Foundry Pre-registration Checklist
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