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njullien opened this issue Jun 2, 2015 · 12 comments
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njullien opened this issue Jun 2, 2015 · 12 comments

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@njullien
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njullien commented Jun 2, 2015

Hello,

if the dataset is to be distributed, it has to be distributed by an authorized organization / person. So we need in the metadata a copyright, consequently a licence would be needed, I think

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libbyh commented Jun 2, 2015

The group quickly decided to leave license optional in case a depositor didn't have one in mind. We thought choosing a license was a confusing process that may actively discourage deposits. Anyone else want to weigh in here? Another option is a default license with an option to choose a different one, but I'm not sure what default license makes sense either.

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hello,

actually, a medium way to do so could be to use the creative common framework, https://creativecommons.org/choose/, which is quite easy to answer, and which fits quite well with what we want to do in this data factory.
In the other hand, I agree that it is not the core of the problem here, even I still consider it important

@njullien
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Still ready to advocate for asking for a license (if you want as optional in the jason), but you have to know that in the law, if there is nothing, by default you cannot do anything

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libbyh commented Jan 29, 2016

We discussed permissions again this meeting and ended up putting it under "permissions" in "file". It's a free text field that's optional. The discussion was about whether licenses or permissions applied to individual files or to a set of files. We came up with a few use cases where a set of files would have different permissions on each (e.g., some code written by someone else and licensed under MIT, some other content written by the depositor using CC-BY). We punted a discussion about whether the OCDF wants to maintain a list of licenses and opted to see what people put in this field instead.

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SPDX maintains a nice standard of licenses, listed at https://github.com/sindresorhus/spdx-license-list/blob/master/spdx.json and http://spdx.org/licenses/. I would say a license is required, since without it it's very unclear who can use the data for what. Suggesting a default license usually helps alleviate the 'which one do I choose?' problem.

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I think in Omaha we should make the license selection part of the schema input.

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Yes, we decided we should make it part of the schema. But if we had
decided it should be “required” (I can’t recall) then I think that
part of it is not so reasonable.

The multiple-use-cases issue is that if someone is creating a data set
and record, then encouraging them to explicitly license the data is
ideal. But if it’s a found data set, then there may be no license even
in the cases where there are explicit terms of use.

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Thanks!

Key Points (I think):

  1. Do not require a license.
  2. Put the license in the schema

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Subject: Re: [OCDX/OCDX-Specification] license (#1)

Yes, we decided we should make it part of the schema. But if we had
decided it should be “required” (I can’t recall) then I think that
part of it is not so reasonable.

The multiple-use-cases issue is that if someone is creating a data set
and record, then encouraging them to explicitly license the data is
ideal. But if it’s a found data set, then there may be no license even
in the cases where there are explicit terms of use.

On July 19, 2016 at 1:44:06 PM, Sean P. Goggins
([email protected]) wrote:

I think in Omaha we should make the license selection part of the schema
input.


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How about requiring a license, but having a specific value for
'unknown-license'? This differentiates 'oh yeah, we should license this
thing, I forgot' from 'oh, I just found this'

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Thanks!

Key Points (I think):

  1. Do not require a license.
  2. Put the license in the schema

From: AniKarenina [email protected] [email protected]
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Subject: Re: [OCDX/OCDX-Specification] license (#1)

Yes, we decided we should make it part of the schema. But if we had
decided it should be “required” (I can’t recall) then I think that
part of it is not so reasonable.

The multiple-use-cases issue is that if someone is creating a data set
and record, then encouraging them to explicitly license the data is
ideal. But if it’s a found data set, then there may be no license even
in the cases where there are explicit terms of use.

On July 19, 2016 at 1:44:06 PM, Sean P. Goggins
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I think in Omaha we should make the license selection part of the schema
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I think the SPDX standard that Matt Germonprez shared with us has an option
like this called “No Assertion”, which explicitly says, “I am not ignoring
you, lovely little schema field. Do not feel hurt. I simply have nothing to
talk about with you right now."

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Subject: Re: [OCDX/OCDX-Specification] license (#1)

How about requiring a license, but having a specific value for
'unknown-license'? This differentiates 'oh yeah, we should license this
thing, I forgot' from 'oh, I just found this'

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean P. Goggins [email protected]
wrote:

Thanks!

Key Points (I think):

  1. Do not require a license.
  2. Put the license in the schema

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Date: July 20, 2016 at 9:17:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [OCDX/OCDX-Specification] license (#1)

Yes, we decided we should make it part of the schema. But if we had
decided it should be “required” (I can’t recall) then I think that
part of it is not so reasonable.

The multiple-use-cases issue is that if someone is creating a data set
and record, then encouraging them to explicitly license the data is
ideal. But if it’s a found data set, then there may be no license even
in the cases where there are explicit terms of use.

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+1, so should make license required, and have whatever the UI for making
this have a checkbox for 'I do not know' which sets it to No Assertion.

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I think the SPDX standard that Matt Germonprez shared with us has an option
like this called “No Assertion”, which explicitly says, “I am not ignoring
you, lovely little schema field. Do not feel hurt. I simply have nothing to
talk about with you right now."

From: Yuvi Panda [email protected] [email protected]
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Date: July 20, 2016 at 9:28:52 AM

To: OCDX/OCDX-Specification [email protected]
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Cc: Sean P. Goggins [email protected] [email protected], Comment
[email protected] [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OCDX/OCDX-Specification] license (#1)

How about requiring a license, but having a specific value for
'unknown-license'? This differentiates 'oh yeah, we should license this
thing, I forgot' from 'oh, I just found this'

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean P. Goggins <[email protected]

wrote:

Thanks!

Key Points (I think):

  1. Do not require a license.
  2. Put the license in the schema

From: AniKarenina [email protected] [email protected]
Reply: OCDX/OCDX-Specification
[email protected]
[email protected]
Date: July 20, 2016 at 9:17:40 AM
To: OCDX/OCDX-Specification [email protected]
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Cc: Sean P. Goggins [email protected] [email protected], Comment
[email protected] [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OCDX/OCDX-Specification] license (#1)

Yes, we decided we should make it part of the schema. But if we had
decided it should be “required” (I can’t recall) then I think that
part of it is not so reasonable.

The multiple-use-cases issue is that if someone is creating a data set
and record, then encouraging them to explicitly license the data is
ideal. But if it’s a found data set, then there may be no license even
in the cases where there are explicit terms of use.

On July 19, 2016 at 1:44:06 PM, Sean P. Goggins
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I think in Omaha we should make the license selection part of the
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I think the 2 non-license categories are probably “no known license”
(because I looked really hard but there’s nothing to go on) or “other
terms specified” (because there are terms of use but no license). The
second one is definitely different from “no assertion” but not sure
that the first case is.

I agree that the differentiation is useful, but if it’s a required
field that means the explanation of any “not a license” options just
needs to be made very clear in documentation or it will confuse
people.

On July 20, 2016 at 10:28:52 AM, Yuvi Panda ([email protected]) wrote:

How about requiring a license, but having a specific value for
'unknown-license'? This differentiates 'oh yeah, we should license this
thing, I forgot' from 'oh, I just found this'

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Sean P. Goggins
wrote:

Thanks!

Key Points (I think):

  1. Do not require a license.
  2. Put the license in the schema

From: AniKarenina
Reply: OCDX/OCDX-Specification

Date: July 20, 2016 at 9:17:40 AM
To: OCDX/OCDX-Specification

Cc: Sean P. Goggins , Comment

Subject: Re: [OCDX/OCDX-Specification] license (#1)

Yes, we decided we should make it part of the schema. But if we had
decided it should be “required” (I can’t recall) then I think that
part of it is not so reasonable.

The multiple-use-cases issue is that if someone is creating a data set
and record, then encouraging them to explicitly license the data is
ideal. But if it’s a found data set, then there may be no license even
in the cases where there are explicit terms of use.

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