diff --git a/immer/extra/persist/detail/json/input_archive_util.hpp b/immer/extra/persist/detail/json/input_archive_util.hpp
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..08ad4bf2
--- /dev/null
+++ b/immer/extra/persist/detail/json/input_archive_util.hpp
@@ -0,0 +1,58 @@
+#pragma once
+
+#include <immer/extra/io.hpp>
+#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_immer.hpp>
+
+namespace immer::persist::detail {
+
+template <class Pools, class Archive, class PoolNameFn>
+auto load_pools(std::istream& is, const auto& wrap)
+{
+    const auto reload_pool = [wrap](std::istream& is,
+                                    Pools pools,
+                                    bool ignore_pool_exceptions) {
+        auto restore              = immer::util::istream_snapshot{is};
+        const auto original_pools = pools;
+        auto ar =
+            json_immer_input_archive<Archive,
+                                     Pools,
+                                     decltype(wrap),
+                                     PoolNameFn>{std::move(pools), wrap, is};
+        ar.ignore_pool_exceptions = ignore_pool_exceptions;
+        /**
+         * NOTE: Critical to clear the pools before loading into it
+         * again. I hit a bug when pools contained a vector and every
+         * load would append to it, instead of replacing the contents.
+         */
+        pools = {};
+        ar(CEREAL_NVP(pools));
+        pools.merge_previous(original_pools);
+        return pools;
+    };
+
+    auto pools = Pools{};
+    if constexpr (detail::is_pool_empty<Pools>()) {
+        return pools;
+    }
+
+    auto prev = pools;
+    while (true) {
+        // Keep reloading until everything is loaded.
+        // Reloading of the pool might trigger validation of some containers
+        // (hash-based, for example) because the elements actually come from
+        // other pools that are not yet loaded.
+        constexpr bool ignore_pool_exceptions = true;
+        pools = reload_pool(is, std::move(pools), ignore_pool_exceptions);
+        if (prev == pools) {
+            // Looks like we're done, reload one more time but do not ignore the
+            // exceptions, for the final validation.
+            pools = reload_pool(is, std::move(pools), false);
+            break;
+        }
+        prev = pools;
+    }
+
+    return pools;
+}
+
+} // namespace immer::persist::detail
diff --git a/immer/extra/persist/detail/transform.hpp b/immer/extra/persist/detail/transform.hpp
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..d421c8c9
--- /dev/null
+++ b/immer/extra/persist/detail/transform.hpp
@@ -0,0 +1,21 @@
+#pragma once
+
+#include <immer/extra/persist/detail/json/pools.hpp>
+
+namespace immer::persist::detail {
+
+template <class Storage, class Container>
+auto get_container_id(const output_pools<Storage>& pools,
+                      const Container& container)
+{
+    const auto& old_pool =
+        pools.template get_output_pool<std::decay_t<Container>>();
+    const auto [new_pool, id] = add_to_pool(container, old_pool);
+    if (!(new_pool == old_pool)) {
+        throw std::logic_error{
+            "Expecting that the container has already been persisted"};
+    }
+    return id;
+}
+
+} // namespace immer::persist::detail
diff --git a/immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp b/immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp
index 68e12960..cf9e968c 100644
--- a/immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp
+++ b/immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp
@@ -1,13 +1,10 @@
 #pragma once
 
+#include <immer/extra/persist/detail/json/input_archive_util.hpp>
 #include <immer/extra/persist/detail/json/pools.hpp>
 #include <immer/extra/persist/detail/json/wrap.hpp>
 #include <immer/extra/persist/json/policy.hpp>
 
-/**
- * to_json_with_pool
- */
-
 namespace immer::persist {
 
 /**
@@ -63,56 +60,6 @@ std::string to_json_with_pool(const T& value0, const Policy& policy = Policy{})
     return os.str();
 }
 
-template <class Pools, class Archive, class PoolNameFn>
-auto load_pools(std::istream& is, const auto& wrap)
-{
-    const auto reload_pool = [wrap](std::istream& is,
-                                    Pools pools,
-                                    bool ignore_pool_exceptions) {
-        auto restore              = immer::util::istream_snapshot{is};
-        const auto original_pools = pools;
-        auto ar =
-            json_immer_input_archive<Archive,
-                                     Pools,
-                                     decltype(wrap),
-                                     PoolNameFn>{std::move(pools), wrap, is};
-        ar.ignore_pool_exceptions = ignore_pool_exceptions;
-        /**
-         * NOTE: Critical to clear the pools before loading into it
-         * again. I hit a bug when pools contained a vector and every
-         * load would append to it, instead of replacing the contents.
-         */
-        pools = {};
-        ar(CEREAL_NVP(pools));
-        pools.merge_previous(original_pools);
-        return pools;
-    };
-
-    auto pools = Pools{};
-    if constexpr (detail::is_pool_empty<Pools>()) {
-        return pools;
-    }
-
-    auto prev = pools;
-    while (true) {
-        // Keep reloading until everything is loaded.
-        // Reloading of the pool might trigger validation of some containers
-        // (hash-based, for example) because the elements actually come from
-        // other pools that are not yet loaded.
-        constexpr bool ignore_pool_exceptions = true;
-        pools = reload_pool(is, std::move(pools), ignore_pool_exceptions);
-        if (prev == pools) {
-            // Looks like we're done, reload one more time but do not ignore the
-            // exceptions, for the final validation.
-            pools = reload_pool(is, std::move(pools), false);
-            break;
-        }
-        prev = pools;
-    }
-
-    return pools;
-}
-
 template <class T,
           class Archive    = cereal::JSONInputArchive,
           Policy<T> Policy = default_policy>
@@ -147,53 +94,24 @@ T from_json_with_pool(const std::string& input, const Policy& policy = Policy{})
     return from_json_with_pool<T, Archive>(is, policy);
 }
 
-template <class Storage, class Container>
-auto get_container_id(const detail::output_pools<Storage>& pools,
-                      const Container& container)
-{
-    const auto& old_pool =
-        pools.template get_output_pool<std::decay_t<Container>>();
-    const auto [new_pool, id] = add_to_pool(container, old_pool);
-    if (!(new_pool == old_pool)) {
-        throw std::logic_error{
-            "Expecting that the container has already been persisted"};
-    }
-    return id;
-}
-
-/**
- * Given an output_pools and a map of transformations, produce a new type of
- * load pool with those transformations applied
- */
-template <class Storage, class ConversionMap>
-inline auto
-transform_output_pool(const detail::output_pools<Storage>& old_pools,
-                      const ConversionMap& conversion_map)
+template <typename T, Policy<T> Policy = hana_struct_auto_policy>
+auto get_auto_pool(const T& value0, const Policy& policy = Policy{})
 {
-    const auto old_load_pools = to_input_pools(old_pools);
-    // NOTE: We have to copy old_pools here because the get_id function will
-    // be called later, as the conversion process is lazy.
-    const auto get_id = [old_pools](const auto& immer_container) {
-        return get_container_id(old_pools, immer_container);
-    };
-    return old_load_pools.transform_recursive(conversion_map, get_id);
-}
+    const auto types = policy.get_pool_types(value0);
+    auto pools       = detail::generate_output_pools(types);
+    const auto wrap  = detail::wrap_known_types(types, detail::wrap_for_saving);
+    using Pools      = std::decay_t<decltype(pools)>;
 
-/**
- * Given an old save pools and a new (transformed) load pools, effectively
- * convert the given container.
- */
-template <class SaveStorage, class LoadStorage, class Container>
-auto convert_container(const detail::output_pools<SaveStorage>& old_save_pools,
-                       detail::input_pools<LoadStorage>& new_load_pools,
-                       const Container& container)
-{
-    const auto container_id = get_container_id(old_save_pools, container);
-    auto& loader =
-        new_load_pools
-            .template get_loader_by_old_container<std::decay_t<Container>>();
-    auto result = loader.load(container_id);
-    return result;
+    {
+        auto ar = json_immer_output_archive<detail::blackhole_output_archive,
+                                            Pools,
+                                            decltype(wrap),
+                                            detail::empty_name_fn>{pools, wrap};
+        ar(CEREAL_NVP(value0));
+        ar.finalize();
+        pools = std::move(ar).get_output_pools();
+    }
+    return pools;
 }
 
 } // namespace immer::persist
diff --git a/immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool_auto.hpp b/immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool_auto.hpp
deleted file mode 100644
index df3aaf62..00000000
--- a/immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool_auto.hpp
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,27 +0,0 @@
-#pragma once
-
-#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp>
-
-namespace immer::persist {
-
-template <typename T, Policy<T> Policy = hana_struct_auto_policy>
-auto get_auto_pool(const T& value0, const Policy& policy = Policy{})
-{
-    const auto types = policy.get_pool_types(value0);
-    auto pools       = detail::generate_output_pools(types);
-    const auto wrap  = detail::wrap_known_types(types, detail::wrap_for_saving);
-    using Pools      = std::decay_t<decltype(pools)>;
-
-    {
-        auto ar = json_immer_output_archive<detail::blackhole_output_archive,
-                                            Pools,
-                                            decltype(wrap),
-                                            detail::empty_name_fn>{pools, wrap};
-        ar(CEREAL_NVP(value0));
-        ar.finalize();
-        pools = std::move(ar).get_output_pools();
-    }
-    return pools;
-}
-
-} // namespace immer::persist
diff --git a/immer/extra/persist/transform.hpp b/immer/extra/persist/transform.hpp
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..022cf5de
--- /dev/null
+++ b/immer/extra/persist/transform.hpp
@@ -0,0 +1,43 @@
+#pragma once
+
+#include <immer/extra/persist/detail/transform.hpp>
+
+namespace immer::persist {
+
+/**
+ * Given an output_pools and a map of transformations, produce a new type of
+ * load pool with those transformations applied
+ */
+template <class Storage, class ConversionMap>
+inline auto
+transform_output_pool(const detail::output_pools<Storage>& old_pools,
+                      const ConversionMap& conversion_map)
+{
+    const auto old_load_pools = to_input_pools(old_pools);
+    // NOTE: We have to copy old_pools here because the get_id function will
+    // be called later, as the conversion process is lazy.
+    const auto get_id = [old_pools](const auto& immer_container) {
+        return detail::get_container_id(old_pools, immer_container);
+    };
+    return old_load_pools.transform_recursive(conversion_map, get_id);
+}
+
+/**
+ * Given an old save pools and a new (transformed) load pools, effectively
+ * convert the given container.
+ */
+template <class SaveStorage, class LoadStorage, class Container>
+auto convert_container(const detail::output_pools<SaveStorage>& old_save_pools,
+                       detail::input_pools<LoadStorage>& new_load_pools,
+                       const Container& container)
+{
+    const auto container_id =
+        detail::get_container_id(old_save_pools, container);
+    auto& loader =
+        new_load_pools
+            .template get_loader_by_old_container<std::decay_t<Container>>();
+    auto result = loader.load(container_id);
+    return result;
+}
+
+} // namespace immer::persist
diff --git a/test/extra/persist/CMakeLists.txt b/test/extra/persist/CMakeLists.txt
index d41ee3a6..6bd31a07 100644
--- a/test/extra/persist/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/test/extra/persist/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@ add_executable(
   test_for_docs.cpp
   ${PROJECT_SOURCE_DIR}/immer/extra/persist/xxhash/xxhash_64.cpp)
 target_precompile_headers(persist-tests PRIVATE
-                          <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool_auto.hpp>)
+                          <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp>)
 add_dependencies(tests persist-tests)
 add_test("test/persist-tests" persist-tests)
 target_include_directories(persist-tests PRIVATE ${CMAKE_SOURCE_DIR})
diff --git a/test/extra/persist/test_circular_dependency_conversion.cpp b/test/extra/persist/test_circular_dependency_conversion.cpp
index cee41a8e..95e57f04 100644
--- a/test/extra/persist/test_circular_dependency_conversion.cpp
+++ b/test/extra/persist/test_circular_dependency_conversion.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 #include <catch2/catch_test_macros.hpp>
 
-#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool_auto.hpp>
+#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp>
+#include <immer/extra/persist/transform.hpp>
 
 #include "utils.hpp"
 
diff --git a/test/extra/persist/test_conversion.cpp b/test/extra/persist/test_conversion.cpp
index 8d1f97f8..c3957144 100644
--- a/test/extra/persist/test_conversion.cpp
+++ b/test/extra/persist/test_conversion.cpp
@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
 #include <catch2/catch_test_macros.hpp>
 
-#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool_auto.hpp>
-
 #include <immer/extra/persist/detail/type_traverse.hpp>
+#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp>
+#include <immer/extra/persist/transform.hpp>
 
 #include "utils.hpp"
 
diff --git a/test/extra/persist/test_for_docs.cpp b/test/extra/persist/test_for_docs.cpp
index 1db39533..ea44ff86 100644
--- a/test/extra/persist/test_for_docs.cpp
+++ b/test/extra/persist/test_for_docs.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 #include <catch2/catch_test_macros.hpp>
 
-#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool_auto.hpp>
+#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp>
 
 #include "utils.hpp"
 #include <nlohmann/json.hpp>
diff --git a/test/extra/persist/test_special_pool_auto.cpp b/test/extra/persist/test_special_pool_auto.cpp
index b0d80cfb..4fc8de84 100644
--- a/test/extra/persist/test_special_pool_auto.cpp
+++ b/test/extra/persist/test_special_pool_auto.cpp
@@ -4,7 +4,8 @@
 
 #include "utils.hpp"
 
-#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool_auto.hpp>
+#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp>
+#include <immer/extra/persist/transform.hpp>
 #include <nlohmann/json.hpp>
 
 #define DEFINE_OPERATIONS(name)                                                \
diff --git a/test/extra/persist/test_table_box_recursive.cpp b/test/extra/persist/test_table_box_recursive.cpp
index 38ab9325..58291a09 100644
--- a/test/extra/persist/test_table_box_recursive.cpp
+++ b/test/extra/persist/test_table_box_recursive.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 #include <catch2/catch_test_macros.hpp>
 
-#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool_auto.hpp>
+#include <immer/extra/persist/json/json_with_pool.hpp>
 
 #include <test/extra/persist/utils.hpp>