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Is this project still active? #663

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knutole opened this issue Feb 7, 2025 · 4 comments
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Is this project still active? #663

knutole opened this issue Feb 7, 2025 · 4 comments

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@knutole
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knutole commented Feb 7, 2025

It seems development on Apache AGE has been discontinued, see apache/age#2111 (comment). Does that affect this project as well?

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uhayat commented Feb 7, 2025

@knutole yes, AgensGraph development is active and you can see PG15 merge we did few days ago, we are planning to release PG15 merge and more Graph + AI feature in 2.15 release, which is tentatively schedule for March 2025.

Your question about Apache AGE, I/We still want to continue Apache AGE development ( you can check my PR and other PR from our team). But new team does not have Write Access (or PMC membership for AGE project), so we are unable to contribute actively. I am waiting for some action from PMCs (member/chair) but its seems current committee is not interested at all in Apache AGE development.

I will wait for some more time then If there is still now activity then I might fork it (might also change name as I don't want to violate Apache AGE trademark ) and continue development,
Which would be quite unfortunate as The Apache principle state "contribute back" but there is no one there to accept contributions.

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knutole commented Feb 7, 2025

Thanks a lot @uhayat for the information.

So this is the PMC you're referring to, I assume? https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?age They are not interested in Apache AGE development? Has there been some conflict here?

I see the main contributor of Apace AGE has been @jrgemignani, which seems to work or have worked for the same company as you, BitNine? He says that "The core R&D team that was driving Apache AGE (paid to work on this project) was eliminated earlier this month." — does that mean he was let go from BitNine?

Was it only @jrgemignani in a personal capacity that had write access?

It's very sad for the project if there's some conflict that's causing it to stall. Seems a very bad handling of an open source project as well, no clear info on who's got write access, why development was discontinued, and no plan for passing the torch along.

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uhayat commented Feb 7, 2025

Thanks a lot @uhayat for the information.

So this is the PMC you're referring to, I assume? https://projects.apache.org/committee.html?age They are not interested in Apache AGE development? Has there been some conflict here?

Correct, thats the PMC, I don't have any knowledge of conflict and I cannot say their intention or interest But I don't see it in github.

I see the main contributor of Apace AGE has been @jrgemignani, which seems to work or have worked for the same company as you, BitNine? He says that "The core R&D team that was driving Apache AGE (paid to work on this project) was eliminated earlier this month." — does that mean he was let go from BitNine?

Was it only @jrgemignani in a personal capacity that had write access?

Correct, John was major contributor and my colleague as well at Bitnine. Yes because of some down sizing he was let go along with some other team members (who happened to be PMCs as well)

It's very sad for the project if there's some conflict that's causing it to stall. Seems a very bad handling of an open source project as well, no clear info on who's got write access, why development was discontinued, and no plan for passing the torch along.

Well, its actually sad. I came from PostgreSQL community and I am not sure how things work in Apache communities and I don't want to mis-state anything, how they work or how they should work. There are 12 PMC and 18 committers and seems none of them is even interested in passing the torch as well.

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knutole commented Feb 7, 2025

OK, thanks a lot for the info @uhayat . Hopefully PMC will pass the torch, it's a fantastic project bringing Graph DBs to Postgres! <3

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