https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8je4bO3MVc8

I've recorded a round that predominately features the Spacebeasts.

The increased lethality is nice, but it feels like they're a bit too resilient - at least in normal circumstances. Their abilities (such as tailsweeping) aren't very pleasant to fight against: I feel like stun-based abilities should be restricted to special Xenomorphs (like the Lurker or Runner), or else you'll have situations where a lone marine will get mercilessly stun-juggled into oblivion. I've had a couple instances where Spacebeasts were also able to pass straight through me (despite having 'harm intent' selected), which was a bit jarring.

Fairly enjoyable to fight, either way. If they're going to be more prominent, however, I'd recommend removing the 'tailsweeping' ability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8je4bO3MVc8

I've recorded a round that predominately features the Spacebeasts.

The increased lethality is nice, but it feels like they're a bit too resilient - at least in normal circumstances. Their abilities (such as tailsweeping) aren't very pleasant to fight against: I feel like stun-based abilities should be restricted to special Xenomorphs (like the Lurker or Runner), or else you'll have situations where a lone marine will get mercilessly stun-juggled into oblivion. I've had a couple instances where Spacebeasts were also able to pass straight through me (despite having 'harm intent' selected), which was a bit jarring.

Fairly enjoyable to fight, either way. If they're going to be more prominent, however, I'd recommend removing the 'tailsweeping' ability.

Thanks for the feedback. Do you happen to have a timestamp in the video for when the alien was able to pass through you? That shouldn't be happening.

don't like how they're always faster than you at around lurker-level of speed while being tougher
combined with the fact that they can lunge you, smack you, and absolutely ruin your aim

soldiers seem to be relatively overpowered - if you don't see them coming and you aren't shooting at them the moment they enter your screen, it's going to reach you and absolutely debilitate you which is a death sentence on fast-paced situations in PVE
not to mention the fact that their warrior punch and tackle-spam means they're capable of easily taking out a marine, RNG willing

tl;dr soldier speed and grab make fighting back too hard and really easy for everything else to kill you (including the soldier)

Attempting to use them as baseline xenomorphs worked decently well in that mission, but yeah the speed is too much ONLY because the health pool is larger. I understand why, but at the same time. Honestly I think we should move away from encouraging marines to entrench against xenomorphs. I don't know if its at all possible, but making the acid pools they spawn when harmed do burn damage to feet would be better than it mostly being an anti-defense tool for the GM. I do really love them, but the way they are does seem largely intended for WO type missions rather than normal missions. I definitely love the speed and lethality, just that there's also a buff to health makes them extra lethal

Thanks for the feedback. Do you happen to have a timestamp in the video for when the alien was able to pass through you? That shouldn't be happening.

No problem - I really like this 'Soldier', by the way. Just needs a bit more tweaking, in my opinion.
Here's a timestamped link that shows it off.

https://youtu.be/8je4bO3MVc8?si=EsjjzRbXyG882rLv&t=169

The soldier right now feels like its trying to be both a harasser and a mainline xenomorph, both of these combined isnt very fun to fight. IMO its too fast for the amount of tank it can take and the disarm spam and grab spam isnt very fun to fight against. This is part of why i fundamentally disagree with Amory's movie accurate drone idea, but atleast he thinks of movie accurate as not tanking anything. Part of why i play PVP is to be free from the annoying to fight tactics like said disarm spam. I could get down with it MAYBE if it had a much lower chance to knock down and couldnt eat 12 bajillion rounds to the teeth if you are lucky enough to get up.

But all of that in mind, it still feels like treaded ground, the stun warfare and speed of a cloaked lurker is already done BY the runner and lurker, maybe if it had more abilities centralized around being more like drones and less like a harasser that somehow can eat 10 rounds.

tldr: Too fast, too tanky, stun warfare is unfun to fight against

Soldiers don't stand still during headbite so most of the time they end up dancing around their target during the headbite windup and failing it (outside of times where they walk back into the tile where they started the headbite).

maybe make headbite root the soldier and give it a longer windup?

I ran a mission with a full platoon carrying knockback shotguns, and M41s with HEAP 10x24 rounds and the soldiers still fucked them in every single encounter. The real issue is that it doesn't matter what the marines are armed with because there's no sound que that they're about to be attacked. This is to say they need to be given footstep sounds, there's just no way to combat them currently that isn't from behind barricades without crippling half the platoon

from what i've seen, soldiers move too quickly and have too much HP, to the point where there's no way for marines to feasibly kill a soldier (outside cades) before it wombo combos and does an absurd amount of damage to a single marine. They either need to be slower, have less hp, or (as amory said) have footsteps sound so that marines can deal with them.

Would it be possible to make their capture behavior dependent on capture markers placed on individual marines rather than on hive markers? They often interfere with other xenomorphs that capture marines using markers since soldiers follow their own logic separately from capture markers.