diff --git a/code/game/objects/items/devices/vulture_spotter.dm b/code/game/objects/items/devices/vulture_spotter.dm
index b89009efde7e..d138c62c7a35 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/items/devices/vulture_spotter.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/items/devices/vulture_spotter.dm
@@ -18,6 +18,8 @@
 	. = ..()
 	to_chat(user, SPAN_WARNING("[src] needs to be mounted on a tripod to use!"))
 
+/obj/item/device/vulture_spotter_scope/skillless
+
 /obj/item/device/vulture_spotter_tripod
 	name = "\improper M707 spotter tripod"
 	desc = "A tripod, meant for stabilizing a spotting scope for the M707 anti-materiel rifle."
diff --git a/code/game/objects/structures/vulture_spotter.dm b/code/game/objects/structures/vulture_spotter.dm
index a668cb562028..cd4feb82a676 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/structures/vulture_spotter.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/structures/vulture_spotter.dm
@@ -21,6 +21,8 @@
 	var/darkness_view = 12
 	/// The maximum distance this can be from the sniper scope
 	var/max_sniper_distance = 7
+	/// If this requires the vulture_user trait to use
+	var/skillless = FALSE
 
 /obj/structure/vulture_spotter_tripod/Initialize(mapload)
 	. = ..()
@@ -36,7 +38,10 @@
 /obj/structure/vulture_spotter_tripod/deconstruct(disassembled)
 	. = ..()
 	if(scope_attached && bound_rifle)
-		new /obj/item/device/vulture_spotter_scope(get_turf(src), bound_rifle)
+		if(skillless)
+			new /obj/item/device/vulture_spotter_scope/skillless(get_turf(src), bound_rifle)
+		else
+			new /obj/item/device/vulture_spotter_scope(get_turf(src), bound_rifle)
 	new /obj/item/device/vulture_spotter_tripod(get_turf(src))
 
 /obj/structure/vulture_spotter_tripod/get_examine_text(mob/user)
@@ -63,7 +68,7 @@
 		return
 	var/mob/living/carbon/human/user = usr //this is us
 
-	if(!HAS_TRAIT(user, TRAIT_VULTURE_USER))
+	if(!HAS_TRAIT(user, TRAIT_VULTURE_USER) && !skillless)
 		to_chat(user, SPAN_WARNING("You don't know how to use this!"))
 		return
 
@@ -153,10 +158,13 @@
 		user.pixel_y = 0
 
 /// Handler for when the scope is being attached to the tripod
-/obj/structure/vulture_spotter_tripod/proc/on_scope_attach(mob/user, obj/structure/vulture_spotter_tripod/scope)
+/obj/structure/vulture_spotter_tripod/proc/on_scope_attach(mob/user, obj/item/scope)
 	if(scope_attached)
 		return
 
+	if(istype(scope, /obj/item/vulture_spotter_scope/skillless))
+		skillless = TRUE
+
 	user.visible_message(SPAN_NOTICE("[user] attaches [scope] to [src]."), SPAN_NOTICE("You attach [scope] to [src]."))
 	icon_state = "vulture_scope"
 	setDir(user.dir)
diff --git a/code/modules/cm_marines/equipment/guncases.dm b/code/modules/cm_marines/equipment/guncases.dm
index 33684aa29d0a..8f70ae539dc3 100644
--- a/code/modules/cm_marines/equipment/guncases.dm
+++ b/code/modules/cm_marines/equipment/guncases.dm
@@ -300,7 +300,7 @@
 	name = "\improper M707 anti-materiel rifle case"
 	desc = "A gun case containing the M707 \"Vulture\" anti-materiel rifle and its requisite spotting tools."
 	icon_state = "guncase_blue"
-	storage_slots = 7
+	storage_slots = 5
 	can_hold = list(
 		/obj/item/weapon/gun/boltaction/vulture,
 		/obj/item/ammo_magazine/rifle/boltaction/vulture,
@@ -325,6 +325,15 @@
 	new /obj/item/pamphlet/trait/vulture(src) //both pamphlets give use of the scope and the rifle
 	new /obj/item/pamphlet/trait/vulture(src)
 
+/obj/item/storage/box/guncase/vulture/skillless
+
+/obj/item/storage/box/guncase/vulture/skillless/fill_preset_inventory()
+	var/obj/item/weapon/gun/boltaction/vulture/skillless/rifle = new(src)
+	new /obj/item/ammo_magazine/rifle/boltaction/vulture(src)
+	new /obj/item/device/vulture_spotter_tripod(src)
+	new /obj/item/device/vulture_spotter_scope/skillless(src, WEAKREF(rifle))
+	new /obj/item/tool/screwdriver(src) // Spotter scope needs a screwdriver to disassemble
+
 //Handgun case for Military police vendor three mag , a railflashligh and the handgun.
 
 //88 Mod 4 Combat Pistol
diff --git a/code/modules/projectiles/gun_attachables.dm b/code/modules/projectiles/gun_attachables.dm
index 698ea8ef5957..cce7f2845366 100644
--- a/code/modules/projectiles/gun_attachables.dm
+++ b/code/modules/projectiles/gun_attachables.dm
@@ -1290,7 +1290,7 @@ Defined in conflicts.dm of the #defines folder.
 					return
 				to_chat(scoper, SPAN_NOTICE("You begin adjusting [src]..."))
 				COOLDOWN_START(src, scope_interact_cd, 0.5 SECONDS)
-				if(!do_after(scoper, 0.5 SECONDS))
+				if(!do_after(scoper, 0.4 SECONDS))
 					return
 
 			adjust_offset(direction)
@@ -1308,7 +1308,7 @@ Defined in conflicts.dm of the #defines folder.
 
 				to_chat(scoper, SPAN_NOTICE("You begin moving [src]..."))
 				COOLDOWN_START(src, scope_interact_cd, 1 SECONDS)
-				if(!do_after(scoper, 1 SECONDS))
+				if(!do_after(scoper, 0.8 SECONDS))
 					return
 
 			adjust_position(direction)
diff --git a/code/modules/projectiles/guns/boltaction.dm b/code/modules/projectiles/guns/boltaction.dm
index 69ce3a8de53e..c18e45e38d3e 100644
--- a/code/modules/projectiles/guns/boltaction.dm
+++ b/code/modules/projectiles/guns/boltaction.dm
@@ -275,3 +275,7 @@
 			to_chat(user, SPAN_DANGER("The splint on your [limb.display_name] comes apart under the recoil!"))
 			user.pain.apply_pain(PAIN_BONE_BREAK_SPLINTED)
 			user.update_med_icon()
+
+
+/obj/item/weapon/gun/boltaction/vulture/skillless
+	bypass_trait = TRUE