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I believe the estimation models need to follow a few ground rules to get good enough to be relied on. And these are:
I think if we adapted all or most of these changes + added mode and region specific models we could have extremely accurate estimations of at least the next 1-24 hours (based on the available forecast data). I realize this will take a while to properly implement if we do decide to do it, it would require significant changes to the backend, parsers and general methodology. The new parsers would be for:
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Same is happening again, but now with gas. Gas usage is increased by a lot lately. Estimated values still use previous values, when gas consumption was much lower. Therefore, estimated value for gas is way too low. |
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From my observations, I check through most of the zones like twice a day, it happens to a few zones. I've seen it happen for West and East Denmark, Poland, Estonia, Germany, Norway, Sweden, all the Italy zones and as already stated for Belgium. The proposed fixes would also improve the estimations for all the US zones, where the zone US-NW-WACM still shows 8.29GW of pumped hydro generation (already mentioned in #3907), US-SW-WALC has the same problem, reporting 21.8 GW of pumped hydro generation and US-NW-IPCO reports coal generation even though there is no coal power plant in this particular zone. I feel like this is a major issue, and it should be addressed as soon as possible. It is to some extent misleading and distorts the coloring quite a bit. |
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Another example: estimated carbon intensity is way too high. Wind is under estimated, gas is over estimated. |
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Hey all, reviving this thread as I'm trying to piece together suggestions for improving our estimations. Have you noticed these kinds of issue in the last weeks? Thanks! |
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The estimation model that is being used at the moment has some limitations. In this discussion, I want to give my view on how to improve it. This discussion is extracted from this issue: #4323
First, let me start with some of the limitations and real world examples:
(Also, look at the increase of carbon intensity. The previous value was 63g, the estimated next value is 195g (that's more than tripple the previous value).
This is caused by the simplicity of the estimation model: It looks like it takes the previous values of previous days into account and calculates the average. However, for some energy sources, the values of the previous days are not related to the current day and should not be used.
I identified several types of energy sources:
To improve the estimation model, I would like to suggest the following improvements (each point refferres to the same point above):
The rationale is the following: The previous days can be very sunny, whereas the current day can be cloudy. An average value of the previous days would therefor be a massive overestimation. However, if we take the average value increase in percent into account, the value will be much closer to the real value: eg: the light intensity at 11:00 will normally always be higher than at 10:00, on sunny and on cloudy days. As the value on the cloudy day at 10:00 will be low, the estimated value at 11:00 will also be low, but higher than at 10:00.
For an (imaginary) example, see Estimate for nuclear in Belgium looks odd #4323 (comment).
The calculated value should not be higher than than the max capacity of the energy source!
One verification is needed: the estimated value of an energy source must not exceeds its maximum capacity. If this would be the case, distribute the excessive amount over the remaining types.
Some other things to take into account:
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