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Ethereum Cat Herders Meeting 19 Notes

Meeting Date/Time: Tue, September 10, 2019 14:00 UTC

Meeting Duration: 41 minutes

GitHub Agenda Page

Video of the meeting

Moderator: Hudson Jameson

Scribe: Jim Bennett

MEETING ACTIONS

  • ACTION 19.1: William Schwab agreed to ask Charles Plant (@ptstl) about removing the agenda item about action items from the Constantinople post-mortem
  • ACTION 19.2: Brent Allsop continues to work with Kevin Owocki and William Schwab to follow up on cat herder funding issues.
  • ACTION 19.3: Brent Allsop and Hudson Jameson agreed to discuss in the chatroom how to remove the bottleneck on the payout for the note-taking.
  • ACTION 19.3: Brent Allsop agreed to publicize the Canonizer.com ProgPoW topic to build consensus and find out from the community if any credible objections exist.
  • ACTION 19.4: Brett agreed to review and close PR #76

1. Hard Fork Coordination Update

The majority of the clients are now merged, including Pegasus and Trinity. In the process of bringing on a hard fork coordinator paid position.

2. Updates on the action items from Constantinople post-mortem

This is mostly done. William Schwab says he doesn't done much on this for a long time and this may be a "zombie item" that should be taken off. We can put what we have in one of our repos, but we don't want to close the PR until this is off the list.

4. Funding/accounting/multisig Funding/accounting/multisig

4.1. Update on Gitcoin discrepancy

Brent Allsop continues to work with Kevin Owocki and William Schwab to follow up on cat herder funding issues.

4.2. Update on ECH Notes funding ECH funding

Hudson Jameson's question on this have all been answered.

4.3. Moloch DAO and other funding

So far, there are 173 Yes votes in the Moloch DAO for cat herders funding. There was also other discussion about various DAO cat herder funding.

4.4. Ethereum Cat Herder DAO

Cat Herders want to coordinate who takes all notes with the Gitcoin bounty system.

5. ProgPoW Findings

Released a blog post in multiple forums, including three different subReddits. First time we've been retweeted by the Ethereum foundation. Community has varied opinions on ProgPoW that are rising up again. Hudson senses there is a large segment of the community with objections to ProgPoW and wants to get an idea from the community how widespread it is. He wants to be able to pinpoint exactly what the issues are and how much support there is for them. He wants to find out what objections the community has and what the Core Devs should pay attention to. There was a discussion of previous attempts to capture this information, but there was no utility from any of these efforts.

ProgPoW is not going to be decided on until after Istanbul. Want to make sure that all the funding for ProgPoW will be paid out to Least Authority. Hudson will be taking care of this.

Brent Allsop proposed the possibility of Canonizer as a tool to find out concisely what everyone's concerns are regarding ProgPoW and briefly described Canonizer's ability to find out concisely and quantitatively what everyone thinks. He pointed out that in the Canonizer Ethereum Consensus Project there is already a ProgPoW topic. Canonizer is a tool that can help build consensus around ProgPoW and how to get it implemented while allowing anyone with any concerns to have their voice be heard concisely and quantitatively.

Hudson Jameson was open to using Canonizer to try to build consensus around ProgPoW and how to release it.

6. Any Other Business

Hudson and Lane will be on a panel in Osaka - Hudson will be representing the Ethereum Foundation. There is a meeting about that on Wednesday. Hudson Jameson is writing a piece on what the Istanbul EIPs are, including an overview on when the TestNet fork is and what the implications will be. Info on backwards compatibility including issues with EIP 1884

7. Review of outstanding action items from Meeting 17

No action items reviewed. Discussed payments for Cat Herder notes - 50 DAI - and for Eth2.0 and 1.x - 100 DAI.

8. Next Meeting: 24 September 2019 at 2pm UTC.

ATTENDEES:

  • Hudson Jameson
  • Brett Robertson
  • Brent Allsop
  • Pooja Ranjan
  • William Schwab
  • Jim Bennett