Weekly Team Meetings: Jul–Dec 2024

[JasonWeill]

Here is a record of the agenda/minutes for our weekly meeting. Everyone is welcome to join.

Let's avoid using this thread for discussion. If you'd like to discuss something in the minutes, open a separate issue and reference this thread.

Here are the meeting notes for the 6 previous months (Jan–Jun 2024)

Meeting Notes

• Nov 27, 2024
• Nov 20, 2024
• Nov 13, 2024
• Nov 06, 2024
• Oct 30, 2024
• Oct 23, 2024
• Oct 16, 2024
• Oct 09, 2024
• Oct 02, 2024
• Sep 25, 2024
• Sep 18, 2024
• Sep 11, 2024
• Sep 04, 2024
• Aug 28, 2024
• Aug 21, 2024
• Aug 14, 2024
• Aug 07, 2024
• July 31, 2024
• July 24, 2024
• July 17, 2024
• July 10, 2024
• July 03, 2024

[jtpio]

Wednesday, July 3rd

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight Labs	@gabalafou
A. T. Darian	QuantStack	@afshin
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Sanjiv Das	AWS/SCU	@srdas
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf

Agenda

• Jason W: Discuss 91 items tagged for JupyterLab 4.3.0
• Ely
  • (Frontends council) Vote to fold accessibility meeting into frontends weekly meeting
  • (Accesibility council) Vote to fold accessibility meeting into frontends weekly meeting
• Darian
  • Update of the "change kernel" dialog in JupyterLab core

Additional discussions

• Mike: security, Tidelift

  • Frontends Team Compass discussion #224
  • Executive Council Team Compass issue #20

• 4.3.0 Milestone stuff

  • (Gab) Removed the following from milestone by closing without merging:
    • Decrease top menu padding for high zoom / narrow screen - jupyterlab #16044
    • Improve Notebook ARIA - jupyterlab #14768
  • (Gab) I will look at the accessibility-related PRs before next week's call

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, July 10

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight	@gabalafou
Frederic Collonval	WebScIT	@fcollonval
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Florence Haudin	QuantStack	@HaudinFlorence

Agenda

• Mike

  • merging in jupyterlab-lsp
    • On merging jupyter-lsp org jupyter-governance/ec-team-compass#25
    • Advise on closer jupyterlab-lsp integration with Jupyter(Lab) #67
  • will release 4.3.0a2 today
  • will publish security advisory on extension-template, details in the unrecorded part
  • procedure for updating APOD tutorial (in reference to jupyterlab/jupyterlab_apod#20)

• Ely

  • (Frontends council) Vote to fold accessibility meeting into frontends weekly meeting
  • (Accesibility council) Vote to fold accessibility meeting into frontends weekly meeting
  • I (Gab) will open some follow-up PRs to update team compasses, docs, calendars, etc.

• Frederic

  • GSoC 2024 update
    • Treeview PR ready for review
      • It adds some keyboard navigation and interaction with some slight visual changes - we loved to hear feedbacks
      • I'm not able to update the snapshots through comments - is it expected with the latest security changes? Should we relax the condition on the status of the commenter?
    • Builder is making good progress, we got jupyter labextension build/develop/watch
      • Next steps is gonna be to include jlpm and @jupyterlab/builder within that repo.
      • I have a question of code organization. That idea started as a PR in the hatch jupyter plugin. And seeing the link that that hatch builder will be tightly link to the new builder, should we use a single repo for both? I recall some counter arguments from Nick but can not find them any more
  • Make the services manager PR a plugin

• Andrii: JupyterLab PR 14375 "Settings Editor: remove pluginslist grey background" is ready for review, has green CI, and was approved by Jason W. Looking for more reviews or consensus that it's good to be merged.

If there is time at the end of the meeting, continue work trying to clear the JupyterLab 4.3.0 milestone.

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, July 17

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Eric Gentry	Anaconda	@ericsnekbytes
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Nicolas Brichet	QuantStack	@brichet
William Stein	CoCalc/SageMathInc	@williamstein
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Florence Haudin	QuantStack	@HaudinFlorence
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight Labs	@gabalafou
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio

Agenda

• Andrii: PR 14375 "Settings Editor: remove pluginslist grey background" is merged. We wanted to release this settings editor UI change early as a part of an alpha to allow for user testing and feedback. Is there a plan for 4.3.0a3 before 4.3.0b1?

  • Mike: yes, we are in alpha we will switch to beta on August 5th as per 4.3 Release Plan jupyterlab#16315
  • Would be nice to wait for more PRs to be merged before doing another release, let's touch basis on new alpha release next week

• Mike:

  • CVE on extension-template/cookiecutter
    • GHSA-rc7c-v5qg-g3vw
    • GHSA-45gq-v5wm-82wg
  • jupyter_ydoc and jupyter-collaboration packages
    • https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyter-collaboration/releases/tag/v3.0.0beta0 released
    • Add cell execution_state jupyter-server/jupyter_ydoc#197

• Jason W:

  • Vote on the move to the Linux Foundation has closed and has passed

• Frederic:

  • in-app translation extension
    • Demo - compatible with lab and notebook 7; main remaining point is to create a Lite version
    • Question: Integration in Lab?
      • I'd like to add menu entries in the language menu to Install a language and Help with translation. The former is not related to the extension but the latter would install the extension (another possibility is to redirect to the Lite instance or the extension repo).
      • Should that extension be in the jupyterlab GitHub org? - for now it is in lab contrib
  • Request for 4.2.x release following ws bump backport
    • What is the status of 4.2.x?
      [Mike] We can cut a new patch release - no-blocker

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, July 24

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
William Stein	CoCalc/SageMathInc	@williamstein
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio

Agenda

• Frederic (won't attend)

  • New security rules and update snapshots job
    I looked at how best handle the current situation that prevents the update job to be executed on non-member PRs. It looks like the easiest would be to create a team with Read access (aka nothing more than what you can do on public repo) in which we invite trusted contributor as outside collaborator.
    For example I invited a GSoC contributor for test purpose (should be dropped at the end of this meeting if the approach is deemed wrong):
    
    Then on one of her PRs, the first update snapshot comment failed (she was not yet a collaborator). The second passed (she accepted the invitation).
  • Follow up in a JupyterLab issue?

• Jason W

  • Request for comments: remove the move up/down buttons from the cell toolbar?
  • Draft PR: add a per-cell "run" button?
    • Added issue to not show cell toolbar without disabling the plugin. Add option not to show cell toolbar, without disabling plugin jupyterlab#16609

• Jeremy

  • Use @jupyter/chat in Jupyter AI? Use @jupyter/chat as chat UI jupyter-ai#862

• Mike

  • jupyter-ai default model for magics Default model for %%ai magic command jupyter-ai#372
  • JupyterLab 4.3 beta/feature freeze approaching
  • Pull requests with "Needs Review" status: Needs Review
    • Add functionality to upload folder by dragging to file browser jupyterlab#10596
  • Issues with important labels: Needs Design and Needs Discussion

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, July 31

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight Labs	@gabalafou
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Nicolas Brichet	QuantStack	@brichet
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Eric Gentry	Anaconda	@ericsnekbytes
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Sanjiv Das	AWS/SCU	@srdas

Agenda

• Jason W

  • Issue 16626 — how to handle clearing output when changing input (Notebook 6/7 parity)
    • Payloads are deprecated; Jason W added a comment to issue 16626 summarizing our discussion, and leaving it open for additional contributions

• Gabriel

  • Haven't had much time but have been slowly trying to go through the tag:Accessibility items in the 4.3 milestone, still some more to go

• Mike

  • JupyterLab 4.3 feature freeze approaching, let's go thorugh some PRs!

• Rosio

  • xterm frontend question regarding issue

• Jeremy

  • JupyterLite 0.4.0 is released:
    • https://github.com/jupyterlite/jupyterlite/releases/tag/v0.4.0
    • https://jupyterlite.readthedocs.io/en/stable/migration.html#to-0-4-0
  • Based on JupyterLab 4.2 and Notebook 7.2
  • Demo site: https://jupyterlite.rtfd.io/en/stable/try/lab

• Mike again:

  • jupyter-resource-usage now supports disk monitoring https://github.com/jupyter-server/jupyter-resource-usage/releases/tag/v1.1.0

Recording

[krassowski]

Wednesday, August 7

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Eric Gentry	Anaconda	@ericsnekbytes
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
William Stein	CoCalc/SageMathInc	@williamstein
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Tony
Nicolas

Agenda

• Jason W

  • Question regarding copyright notices in Jupyter (e.g., for Outdated copyright year in the About JupyterLab dialog jupyterlab#16642 ) — do we need to include a year?

• Mike

  • Demo: resizing columns Implement resizing for the file browser jupyterlab#16646
  • JupyterLab 4.3 PR review

Discussions around Accessibility topics:

• remainder: first meeting of each month with dedicated time for accessibility topics, but nothing on the agenda
• low turnout from accessibility group this time, but really low turnout overall as this is vacation season in northern hemisphere
• incorporating accessibility checkers
  • into galata?
• emulation of a screen reader?
  • https://www.guidepup.dev/
  • https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devtools/accessibility/reference
  • Firefox one's even better
• by next year Europe will require WCAG 2.2 compared to existing WCAG 2.0 in US
• low hanging fruit for accessibility:
  • let's add eslint rules for accessibility
    • https://www.npmjs.com/package/eslint-plugin-jsx-a11y
  • toggle accessbility settings in downstream when possible (xterm, codemirror, mathjax)
  • link to docs in downstream repos
  • galata
    • https://playwright.dev/docs/accessibility-testing
    • new accessibility assertions added in playwright 1.44 (we are already at 1.45)
• potential work actions
  • eslint linter package that includes accessibility settings
  • mathjax accessibility
  • xterm accessibility
  • axe playwright in jupyter components
  • axe playwright in galata
  • documentation accessibility
  • best practices page

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, August 14

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio

Agenda

• Mike

  • JupyterLab 4.3.0b0 released!
    • Regression in RTC/server-side execution
      • Outputs do not show up on collaborators screens  jupyterlab#16670
    • Will find time to draft user-facing changelog this week
    • Jeremy: Notebook 7.3 blocked on Update to JupyterLab 4.3.0rc0 jupyter/notebook#7423
  • Small big change proposed in Bump lumino jupyterlab#16674, I would like to have some more eyes on this

• Andrii

  • I have a very offtopic question re Dask if anyone has expertise in the framework https://dask.discourse.group/t/editing-dask-delayed-dag-graph-nodes-after-creation/2985
  • Multi-task jobs jupyter-server/jupyter-scheduler#411

Recording

[krassowski]

Wednesday, August 21

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Eric Gentry	Anaconda
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
William Stein	CoCalc/SageMathInc	@williamstein

Agenda

• Mike
  • Looking for reviews on three PRs:
    • Update contents model on file change due to save from RTC
    • Add a guard on uninitialized nodes when resizing, remove log
    • Security PR
• Will open user-facing PR tonight (or early morning tomorrow) - edit here: User-facing changelog for JupyterLab 4.3 jupyterlab#16709
  • Once PRs are in looking to release 4.3.0b1

Additional discussions

Triage of issues tagged for 4.3.0.

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, August 28

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio
William Stein	CoCalc	@williamstein
Sanjiv Das	AWS & SCU	@srdas
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Florence Haudin	QuantStack	@HaudinFlorence

Agenda

• Jason W

  • JupyterLab 4.3.0 beta call for testing

• Mike

  • Vulnerability advisory now live: GHSA-9q39-rmj3-p4r2

Additional discussion

4.3.0 issues — triaged all issues on the 4.3.0 milestone, added one additional release blocker (16712)

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, September 4

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio
Konstantin Taletskiy	Axle Informatics	@ktaletsk
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf

Agenda

• Andrii I: Newly released Jupyter Scheduler v2.8.0 (https://github.com/jupyter-server/jupyter-scheduler/releases/tag/v2.8.0) now works with jupyter-collaboration thanks to PR 541 (Support jupyter-collaboration by handling RTC prefix in the file paths jupyter-server/jupyter-scheduler#541) that fixes RTC prefix error.
  • We have tested all main user flows with RTC but we could definitely use some additional testing. So if you have time and iterest, please try using jupyter-scheduler with jupyter-collaboration and let us know if anything goes wrong.
  • This is comapible with WIP PR JupyterLab custom drive PR 16744 Add content providers jupyterlab#16744

• Jason W

  • Add jupyterlab-unfold (folder tree view) to core JupyterLab? WIP/Discussion: Tree view for file browser jupyterlab#5526
    • Jason W to open issue in jupyterlab-unfold about merging into core

• R Ely

  • "I love Jason's idea of prioritizing accessibility in any triage that happens in these first-of-the-month meetings"

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, September 11

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight	@gabalafou
Eric Gentry	Anaconda	@ericsnekbytes
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Nicolas Brichet	QuantStack	@brichet
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
William Stein	CoCalc	@williamstein
Konstantin Taletskiy	Axle	@ktaletsk
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio
Akshat Saini	Axle	@akisaini
Isabela Presedo-Floyd	Quansight Labs	@isabela-pf
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i

Agenda

• Mike

  • Content providers PR
    • Add content providers jupyterlab#16744
    • Jason: adding to documentation - maybe at least in extension migration guide
  • Call for help with review :)
  • File browser:
    • Use inline-grid for browser column positioning jupyterlab#16765
    • Modifies filebrowser to use CSS grid jupyterlab#16751

• Jason W

  • New host guide pull request, to encourage others to host Jupyter calls and meetings, in collaboration with the DEI and Docs workgroups: Create host-guide.md jupyter/jupyter#731
    • This will be added to the community documentation: https://docs.jupyter.org/en/latest/community/content-community.html

• Gabriel

  • JEP for sub-shells (PR #91) was approved
    • There is an ipykernel implementation in the works: Kernel subshells (JEP91) implementation #1249
    • There will have to be a PR at some point to surface this feature to the UI

• Konstantin

  • JupyterLab-LaTeX
    • Extension has been converted to extension template.
    • PyPI releases has resumed.
    • Latest PyPI release is now compatible with the latest JupyterLab: pip install jupyterlab jupyterlab-latex.
    • Starting work on better supporting different LaTeX engines. If you'd like to see a particular engine supported and it's not mentioned in the issue, leave a comment there

• Nick

  • Update to typedoc 0.26.* jupyterlab#16768
  • https://about.readthedocs.com/blog/2024/07/addons-by-default/

• Rosio

  • NbClassic release this week with a few bug fixes.
    • 404 : Not Found when trying to open a png file jupyter/nbclassic#272
  • Discussion about Python 3.13 coming in October
    • My action item as suggested by Mike: Open draft PR updating testing matrix to include Python 3.13 to gather any issues that could/need to be reported downstream

Additional discussion

4.3.0 release update: review release blockers, pull requests

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, September 18

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Eric Gentry	Anaconda	@ericsnekbytes
Layne Sadler	KeyBio	@aiqc
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight Labs	@gabalafou
Konstantin Taletskiy	Axle	@ktaletsk
Akshat Saini	Axle	@akisaini

Agenda

• Andrii: Jupyter Scheduler (extension to run notebooks including on shchedule https://github.com/jupyter-server/jupyter-scheduler) will now support Python 3.12 Add support for Python 3.12, update versions of github actions jupyter-server/jupyter-scheduler#548
  • Comment that it would be nice to be able to set a queue of notebooks with parameters, lack of this feature prevents at least 1 person from using Jupyter Scheduler Queue of jobs with max concurrency jupyter-server/jupyter-scheduler#447
• Jeremy:
  • PyData Paris next week
• Konstantin and Akshat:
  • JupyterLab-LaTeX UX improvements PR UX improvements jupyterlab-latex#243
• Layne
  • Was hoping to see demo of Timeline feature
    • Jeremy: Yesterday it was released in beta version of collaboration pypi's package
    • Relates to Add Code of Conduct to repo #1 pain point in survey about tracking changes

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, September 25

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio

Agenda

• Jeremy (not attending the meeting, but sharing some updates on work-in-progress PRs):

  • Allow customizing the ServiceManager with plugins: Allow customizing the ServiceManager with plugins jupyterlab#16794
    • Needs Update to the latest Lumino jupyterlab#16804, which is read for review
  • Can be used to register the YDrive as the default drive, and likely fix issues related to the RTC: prefix: wip in Provide the YDrive as the default drive jupyter-collaboration#365
  • Allows many more use cases
  • Can be an alternative to Add content providers jupyterlab#16744, as extensions would now be able to provide their on contents manager via an extension
  • Some details still to be fixed and polished, but could be ready "soon"

• Jason W

  • Lab 4.3.0 release update/discussion
  • 4.3.0 issues: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A4.3.0

• Mike

  • Ready for review (again): Fix overwriting shortcuts Fix overwriting shortcuts jupyterlab#16721
  • New blocker for 4.3: Cannot open notebooks with stream in outputs in JupyterLab 4.3.0b0-1 Cannot open notebooks with stream in outputs in JupyterLab 4.3.0b0-1 jupyterlab#16812

• Rosio (Will be late to meeting)

  • After updating to latest jupyter_releaser and trying to release nbclassic, I realized I don't have the admin permissions required to do so. If someone could help me by granting me Admin privilege so I can release that would be helpful!

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, October 2

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
William Stein	CoCalc	@williamstein
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight Labs	@gabalafou
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Fernando Pérez	UC Berkeley	@fperez
Balaji Alwar	UC Berkeley	@balajialg

Agenda

First Wednesday of the month; Accessibility topics?

• Jason W

  • Hacktoberfest this year?
  • 4.3.0 blockers?
    • Particularly File browser columns are not consistently positioned jupyterlab#16712, which has two open PRs

• Gabriel

  • I am the current representative of Jupyter Accessibility for the Jupyter Software Steering Council
  • The representative term length is 1 year
  • I started in October 2023
  • My term is ending this month
  • We need to run a nomination and election process
  • I'm not exactly sure where to start
    • Suggestion: Team compass issue

• Mike (cannot unmute today)

  • Still looking for review on "Fix overwriting shortcuts" Fix overwriting shortcuts jupyterlab#16721

• Jeremy:

  • Updated the quick open extension for JupyterLab
  • https://github.com/jupyterlab-contrib/jupyterlab-quickopen
  • Related issue: quick open jupyterlab#4767
  • Does this belong to core JupyterLab?

Auston:

• What tips would you share with faculty to help them make their notebooks accessible?
  • Gab: Here are a few resources:
    • Notebook authoring accessibility checklist
    • draft Accessibility Tips for Creating & Publishing Jupyter Notebooks
    • slides for Accessibility best practices for authoring Jupyter notebooks - SciPy 2023
• What are some of the accessibility barriers currently present with the application?
  • Gab: this is a complex question but here are a couple of good places to start
    • JupyterLab: Accessibility Issues Needing Addressing for WCAG 2.1 compliance (As of Version 2.2.6) #9399
    • Jupyter Notebook: Accessibility Issues Needing Addressing for WCAG 2.1 compliance (As of Version 7.0.0a15) #6800
• Can you export from Jupyter Notebook to an accessible HTML?
  • Gab:
    • nbconvert is the place to start, I think
    • this same question motivated much of the work done by the Notebooks for All (2022-2023) project
  • Balaji:
    • nbconvert-a11y?
      • Gab: ah yes, looks like this was forked from notebooks-for-all
      • Gab: it should be mentioned that most of this work was experimental
      • Balaji: Thanks, good to know!

Recording

[tonyfast]

it is so awesome that after the accessibility meeting shuffling y'all were finally able to focus on accessibility during front-ends call. it feels worth it to have shown up solo the last two months to remind y'all that accessibility is important.

i watched the accessibility part of the meeting and took a look at the notes. it is great to see notebooks-for-all mentioned in the notes, but the fact that it was not shared in the meeting is an oversight. notebooks-for-all was funded by the space telescope science institute, and is the first co-design effort ever created with the goal of improving the notebook experience for disabled people. during this effort we made our first couple drafts of accessible authoring experiences. designers and developers worked directly with disabled testers who were compensated to hear about their experiences. all of that work is documented as issues in a progressive open-source way thanks to @isabela-pf's incredible thoroughness.

i really want to thank @gabalafou for acknowledging the experimental nature of nbconvert-a11y. it is indeed one of if not the only reference implementation for the accessibility object model of a notebook. further, it includes python pytest fixtures for testing html(vnu) and accessibility of the documents like @bollwyvl mentioned in the meeting. this project has been developed unfunded and i continue to work directly with disabled notebooks users to improve the reference implementation. as far as i know, this is the only effort to develop a reference implementation for experiencing static, html notebooks with assistive technology. the provenance of notebooks-for-all and the continued inclusion of disabled notebook users means that this is one of the only jupyter/notebook programs centering disabled people and assistive technology users. how can this not be experimental?

nbconvert-a11y is extremely relevant to nbconvert, table of contents, and even jupyter lab/classic. i have been looking for platforms to share this work. i'd love it if anyone could reach out if that are interested in making space for me to share it.

i don't intend to return to jupyter meetings so i'd really appreciate it if the community can ensure some of my labor in accessibility isn't dismissed or erased. it is very hard to continue these efforts when they have not been equitably acknowledged. that doesn't mean we stop, but it makes the unfunded work of disabled people much more difficult.

[jtpio]

Wednesday, October 9

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Eric Gentry	Anaconda	@ericsnekbytes
Nicolas Brichet	QuantStack	@brichet

Agenda

• Jeremy (may not attend):

  • 4.3.0b3 is released
  • Some progress on Notebook 7, but still some issues with the file browser columns: Update to JupyterLab 4.3.0rc0 jupyter/notebook#7423 (comment)
  • Are we ready for the first RC?
    • The ydoc update could likely be done during the RC
    • This one would also be good to have to help with Notebook: Change "File Size" Column name to "Size" in file browser jupyterlab#16749
    • happy to do the 4.3.0rc0 release this week if we get these PRs in (and more if possible)
      • Jason W: I can take a look at PR 16749, then we can cut rc0 later this week

• Jason W (may need to drop):

  • Separate release branch for 4.3.0?
    • Hold off on 4.3.x branch until 4.3.0 is out

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, October 16

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
William Stein	CoCalc	@williamstein
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio

Agenda

• Jason W

  • nbclassic release?
    • Will follow up with frontends council about this

• Jeremy

  • JupyterLab 4.3.0rc0: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/releases/tag/v4.3.0rc0
  • Notebook 7.3.0b0: https://github.com/jupyter/notebook/releases/tag/v7.3.0b0
  • "Project size too large" error when publishing to PyPI: "Project size too large" error when publishing to PyPI jupyterlab#16859

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, October 23

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
William Stein	CoCalc	@williamstein
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio
Nicolas Brichet	QuantStack	@brichet
Eric Gentry	Anaconda	@ericsnekbytes
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski

Agenda

• Jason W

  • 4.3.0 release update
    • Issue 16649, upgrading ydoc, is the last release blocker. Requires updating typings.
  • PR 16744 / PR 16794 for RTC prefix removal — update?
    • To be considered for 4.4.0 alpha

• Jeremy

  • Progress on Notebook 7.3
  • Moved a few issues out of the 7.3.0 milestone, but still a few that would be nice to address: https://github.com/jupyter/notebook/milestone/51
    • One about caching issues would probably hit users when they upgrade otherwise
  • Start blog post about JupyterLab 4.3 / Notebook 7.3?

• Mike

  • working on scrolling issues; pretty hard
    • Erratic Scroll Jump just when scrolling jupyterlab#15968 (comment)
    • Use content-visibility with contain-intrinsic-size for size caching in windowed notebooks jupyterlab#16327 4.4 target?
  • jupyter-ai context scope question
    • Add all notebook to context,  jupyter-ai#1037

Additional discussion

• Community call is coming up on November 13, replacing this meeting. Announcement: https://blog.jupyter.org/november-2024-jupyter-community-call-f5d0761c67a1
  • Add yourself to the agenda here: https://hackmd.io/Y71c6HqpSliEBb3L_McGfg
• The computer that built Jupyter, on Reddit
• https://github.com/ipython/ipykernel/releases/tag/v7.0.0a0

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, October 30

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio

Agenda

• Jason W

  • 4.3.0 release update

• Jeremy:

  • Let's release 4.3 today?
  • There are a couple of 4.4.0 related that could be merged after the 4.3 release
  • Let's create a 4.3.x branch soon?

• Mike

  • Next week's is the first meeting of the month with dedicated time to accessibility topics

Additional discussion

• State of jupyterlab-deck? https://github.com/deathbeds/jupyterlab-deck
• Plug: Jupyter Community Call Nov 13 at 09:00 PST — sign up here: https://hackmd.io/Y71c6HqpSliEBb3L_McGfg
  • Blog post: https://blog.jupyter.org/november-2024-jupyter-community-call-f5d0761c67a1

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, November 6th

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Gabriel Fouasnon	Quansight	@gabalafou
Jason Weill	AWS	@JasonWeill
William Stein	SageMath, Inc.	@williamstein
R Ely	Bloomberg	@ohrely
Auston Stamm	Stanford University
Nicolas Brichet	Quanstack	@brichet
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Luciano Resende	Apple	@lresende
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio
Rosio Reyes	Anaconda	@RRosio
Ian Thomas	QuantStack	@ianthomas23
Eric Gentry	Anaconda	@ericsnekbytes

Agenda

First meeting of the month; accessibility topics have priority

• Frederic (unlikely to attend)

  • Front-ends council members, you need to confirm your membership:link: by November 10th

• Jason W

  • Community call next week at this time — sign up here: https://hackmd.io/Y71c6HqpSliEBb3L_McGfg?both=
  • Recurring schedule for minor releases of JupyterLab?
    • 4.0.0 to 4.1.0 was about 9 months; to 4.2.0 was about 3 months; to 4.3.0 was about 6 months
    • 5.0.0 release?
  • New nbconvert release requested — New nbconvert release requested jupyter/foundations-and-standards-team-compass#6
  • RTC-related pull requests 16744 and 16794 update?

• Auston S

  • Just curious about Jupyter Notebooks and what work is being done related to accessiblity
    • Notebook a11y issues: https://github.com/jupyter/notebook/issues/?q=is%3Aissue%20state%3Aopen%20label%3Atag%3AAccessibility
    • JupyterLab a11y: https://github.com/jupyterlab/jupyterlab/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Atag%3AAccessibility
    • Accessibility statement: https://jupyter-accessibility.readthedocs.io/en/latest/resources/JupyterLab-a11y-statement.html
    • Linux Foundation a11y: https://accessibility.linuxfoundation.org/a11yspecs/

• Mike

  • Jupyter scheduler rework

Recording

[jtpio]

Wednesday, November 13th

No meeting.

The time slot was used for the Jupyter Community Call: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ildFScV6mZQ

[jtpio]

Wednesday, November 20th

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Nicolas Brichet	QuantStack	@brichet
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Jeremy Tuloup	QuantStack	@jtpio

Agenda

• Frederic (unlikely to attend)
  • Google Summer of Code 2025: are some developpers interested?
    Discussion opened at Google Summer of Code 2025 #262

Additional discussion

Various discussions on jupyter-ui-toolkit and a new chat-based communication tool for Jupyter.

Recording

This meeting was not recorded.

[andrii-i]

Wednesday, November 27th

Name	Affiliation	GitHub
Andrii Ieroshenko	AWS	@andrii-i
Mike Krassowski	Quansight	@krassowski
Michael Chin	AWS	@michaelnchin

Agenda

• Mike
  • looking for reviews on:
    • Pin Python version for visual regression testing to 3.11
    • Fix disappearing cells (heal offsets after updating estimated sizes)
    • Fix regression in standard error rendering performance
    • Reconfigure 4.2.x branch (4.3.x is new stable)
  • UI opinions?
    • Settings Import Feature from a JSON File - two separate buttons or dropdown? What labels?
    • Add feature to scroll to currently executing cell on progress circle click - click on circle on button in tooltip?