Xybots (and clones) missing RetroPad mapping

[paradadf]

Xybots should have action buttons (twist) mapped to RetroPad buttons by default and not only key strokes.

[dankcushions]

good spot!

mame2003-libretro/src/drivers/xybots.c

Line 122 in 7b55725

PORT_BITX(0x0004, IP_ACTIVE_LOW, IPT_BUTTON3 | IPF_PLAYER2, "P2 Twist Right", KEYCODE_W, IP_JOY_DEFAULT )

it seems that this and many other games with inputs that use IP_JOY_DEFAULT are not actually bound to anything on the joypad. it's almost like a placeholder... very strange.

for this game, what would be good retropad buttons to use for this game? the original cabinet had a 'twist' stick. i think retropad Y and A as this maps well to the right_stick_as_btns core option, allowing you to the use the right stick to rotate the view, sort of like a modern FPS/3PS.

[paradadf]

Yes, RetroPad A and Y would be perfect. That's the most intuitive I would say.

[markwkidd]

Is this working now?

[markwkidd]

@SapphireTactician because you suggested that I might tag you again -- could you see if you think this input is working the way it ought to be in mame2003-plus?

[dankcushions]

it is? https://github.com/libretro/mame2003-libretro/blob/master/src/libretro/joystick.c#L20

i think the issue is with this IP_JOY_DEFAULT thing - it's avoiding this association for whatever reason. i never investigated beyond that.

[dankcushions]

i'm sure that's how it works in standalone, but i'm saying it's not working in the libretro version for some reason. retropad's button3 mapping is being ignored when in IP_JOY_DEFAULT situations

[dankcushions]

yeah my hunch is that this is an order thing. i don't like the idea of changing the inputs in the drivers for any reason.

[ghost]

@markwkidd I'll download the new code and recompile the core, then take a look into it for you.

[ghost]

@markwkidd Downloaded latest code, compiled, twist controls still not mapped to RetroPad.

[ghost]

@markwkidd I figured out what happened. It's not pretty. To get the new defaults you assigned for each twist, I had to "null" out those controls first. Meaning each twist can't be truly nulled anymore as nulling sets them to what you intended to be the defaults.

In other words, it seems you defined what null is for those inputs, not what their default is.

On a sidenote, this game is really fun. Glad to be introduced to it.

[markwkidd]

@paradadf and @SapphireTactician -- @grant2258 added remappable analog inputs to MAME 2003-Plus yesterday.

That means that analog inputs can be remapped from within the frontend (RetroArch) rather than from within the MAME Menu/Remapper.

If either of you is still interested in this game, would you be willing to give it a try with the latest MAME 2003-Plus build, and try to map the twister completely from within the frontend?

[paradadf]

@markwkidd I just tried to remapp the missing inputs from within retroarch‘s controls menu and had no luck. I couldn‘t map anything, no response.

[paradadf]

I used the plus core as markwkidd asked for.

[rsn8887]

How can I remove a Mame input menu mapping on a system without a keyboard? I think on PC it was „esc“.

[rsn8887]

Interesting. I wish Mame osd menu had a little reminder text how to do this, since it is impossible to figure it out without instructions.

[rsn8887]

Nice docs! But the "press left twice to return to default" is not mentioned. That's the part I find impossible to figure out.