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Support other deployment models #377
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Thank you for contributing this issue. My first question to regarding the proposed changes would be why? I do not really see how having a multitude of different deploy methods would help people locking lasers. I am well aware that running As you yourself mention supporting Nix and/or several more deployment methods comes with significant additional workload and additional sources of bugs. So without clear benefits outweighing this additional workload I do not see why this should be implemented. Genuinely interested, what does your setup look like that you would have use for this? |
It is a bit hard to split the deployment topic to installation and setting up autostart mechanism, but I'll try to do my best. First of all, one type of target machines that we wish to deploy Linien onto, are machines with a read only file system, that boots the Linux file system into memory - without the ability to change permanently the file system - like a Linux installation Live CD. I encountered this kind of system installed on an SD card on a Xilinx development board, and if I understood correctly, @fsagbuya works now on deploying Linien on such a Xilinx' FPGA as well. So installing Linien server on this kind of system would require us to do it ourself, and we wish that it would have been possible to disallow the clients to even try to install the server - this is the behavior I implemented in my Another modification we would like to see from the client is that it'd be able to handle an error such as " I think that now I am able to summarize our hopefully modest feature request into 3 parts:
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So your plan is to port Linien to a different hardware platform? This is generally encouraged, see e.g. #275. However, I will not really be able to work on this myself. In principle, it does not matter how the server is started for the behavior of the client. If the server is running the client will be able to establish a connection via As for installation without internet connection, there are ways to do that using I think it is virtually impossible to implement all possible startup methods into Linien and even implementing a subset is error-prone, needs additional maintenance and development work rather spent elsewhere. Specifically supporting nix and maintaining this is non-trivial as you said. I think this should rather be relegated to the individual users. Non-standard startup of the server could be handled by a simple script being run before starting up the client/GUI. |
Of course, we don't want to ask for your efforts for this task, I am just pointing it out as a use case for supporting different installation methods, that won't require
Sure that can be tracked and discussed separately. If for example we'll use Petalinux for our boards, we might contribute eventually a bitbake recipe that this repository can include / link to.
I agree! I didn't mean to suggest this. In a similar manner to the 2nd request from my previous comment, I am only hoping that there was a way to disable
Maintaining a |
A few updates: NixI just tried to use
Any idea what could that be @bleykauf ? Offline installation (without Nix 😞 )I managed to make progress regarding offline installation, details about that in my #378 (comment) . |
Hi @doronbehar. I also encountered this error before. I managed to fix it with: https://gist.github.com/fsagbuya/696dd87d0a7525f5ac4fae08ae1af072 |
Thanks @fsagbuya for trying to help :) I appreciate it. I see that you are essentially reverting my patch to pyrp3 from a while ago. Luckily, that is not needed! The main difference between how Nixpkgs compiles that extension and how the old |
Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
@fsagbuya and I, and possibly others too, would like to deploy Linien's server in a declarative manner - for example on boards other then RedPitaya, and with other build systems such as Yocto/Petalinux (for Xilinx boards) and Nix (see not-os). Even in the simple case where the RedPitaya is not connected to the internet, and you want the SD card to include it prior to deployment in the lab, it seems currently non-trivial to do so.
I discussed this topic with you at #295 (comment) . I also still hold my
nixFlake
branch in which I made some small but significant changes to the client packages, that allow one to disallow imperative installation. Unfortunately, rebasing those changes now to the1.0.1
branch is not trivial...Describe the solution you'd like
I'd like the server and the client to support several deployment models:
In both declarative deployment models, I want the clients not to try to install the server if it isn't installed - to keep the embedded Linux image pure. Non of the above mentioned common init systems use
screen
as a process manager...As a bonus, it would be helpful for us Nix users if the project would have tracked a
flake.nix
file :).Describe alternatives you've considered
Keep maintaining my fork - too much work.
Additional context
#295 as mentioned, and #293 .
See also the behavior I programmed the GUI in my outdated
nixFlake
branch:https://github.com/doronbehar/linien/blob/a3e80dc41fb62bb00163944629afe647939d9a6c/linien-gui/linien_gui/ui/device_manager.py#L90-L110
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