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list layout #6

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Yomi0 opened this issue Jul 6, 2015 · 15 comments
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list layout #6

Yomi0 opened this issue Jul 6, 2015 · 15 comments
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Yomi0 commented Jul 6, 2015

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It's sort of hard to read filenames like this because they get cut off. So I'm requesting for a list mode.

@Yomi0 Yomi0 changed the title list mode request for list mode Jul 6, 2015
@Yomi0 Yomi0 changed the title request for list mode list layout Jul 7, 2015
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mjtorn commented Jul 7, 2015

This is an issue in enlightenment's file manager - unless it's fixed since the e19 version I'm running. It's ridiculously hard to get a long file name visible. Would wrapping the text make it too awful, as in not keeping the icons aligned straight?

(Caveat: I do not know if Jesus comes with a tooltip for long file names, even that would be better than what my current e19 does)

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Adding a table view is planned, but even there will be a problem with long names, if you have a small screen.

My Idea to fix this was to get the file names across 3 rows, if they are still too long ellipses the filename out and add (as you said) a tooltip with the complete name.

I just wasnt able to tweak a label to work like this ... Will work on this as next task

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Okay, I just played with it a bit and tested how it looks with 3 lines filename, it looks ugly...
Now there are two possibilitys:

  • Let the label rotate to show the complete name
  • Show tooltip after you entered the label with the mouse.

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Yomi0 commented Jul 7, 2015

I don't know if it would be helpful, but Thunar seems to do linebreaks somehow with long filenames and somehow manages to keep everything aligned.

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efm (in E) seems to show the filename up to a certain length. (which...seems okay...)

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But mainly, I just prefer a view like this.

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A Table view will come soon :) there are just a few more items before this one

I dont like the tunar view, there is too much text, I think I will go for the tooltip, its just clean. I also just added the rename feature, so if someone wants to copy the file name he can just press F2.

Maybe I can additionaly tweak the label to look like the enlightenmentfm :). But there are a few other things ahead :)

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mjtorn commented Jul 8, 2015

BTW, just as a side note, you may not want to add the ... at the end of the file name if it's too long, it's sometimes real annoying to have similarly-named files and they all look the same because the significant information is actually at the end, which is cut off.

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How do you mean ? the ... at the end is just added if the name is too long to be displayed, What would be the alternative ? If there is the ... you can hover above the label and get the complete name :)

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mjtorn commented Jul 8, 2015

Consider files like video-camera-2015-07-01-01.mpeg (as an example, with running dates) and they get truncated into video-camer...

The alternative is showing them like video...07-01-01.mpeg or whatever, maybe even drop the extension. See how much more significant information that carries?

And, sure, either way hovering is a must, thanks :)

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Ah okay got it, I will have to look if this is possible, the main problem here is that the ellising is done in evas, so in the end I do have to do anything with it. I would have to check if the complete text would fit the size or not, which is not that easy. Lets call it wishlist for now, ok ? :)

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mjtorn commented Jul 8, 2015

If you do have to do it manually, maybe it should be a patch into eina, because I can't be the only person who finds the trailing ellipses annoying ;) Raster's pretty good with usability, I'm sure he'd agree if a patch showed up on his doorstep :)

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Its not that easy, evas just knows a single text object and this object will render regardings its options. It doesnt know another text object where it should calculate the difference from. Making a solution in efl will be very hard. If this is somehow solvable then the end user has to to it I guess :(

After a quick look its imposible to get out of evas if this text fits into the given space or not 👎

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mjtorn commented Jul 9, 2015

Not sure I get what you're saying, sorry. My idea was just to submit a patch to evas that alters the ellipsis behavior. Then you wouldn't have to ask evas if the text fits or not and need not do anything of your own there.

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Mhmm what would you change? That the user can pass a "smaller" string to evas so instead of fading out the exisiting one ?

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Yomi0 commented Jul 16, 2015

If this is also going to have a list view, isn't it also going to need columns?

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not for now but I would also like to have a view with details of the files in columns.

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