Working as designed. TestContainers generates ephmeral ports, and you must use getDatasource, getUri, or getHost/getPort

You cannot assume static port mapping. In general this is a feature. Feel free to submit a PR to do an optional static port (IIRC testcontainers supports this but recommends against it)

• From the same java process, modify your usage as described above. That's really the main focus of this library
• From PGAdmin, issue a docker containers ls and you can figure out the port. That's probably fine there since non automated. Perhaps annoying.
• From a separate process (which I admit sounds weird to me - why not just launch postgres from a bash script then?), you'd indeed have to grep the docker container ls or use the docker api. Which sounds awful.

For both of the latter two, feel free to submit a PR to optionally force static ports. In general these do not work well in scenario 1, which is why we went with the default.

See also https://bsideup.github.io/posts/testcontainers_fixed_ports/

Feel free to check out https://github.com/opentable/otj-pg-embedded/tree/FixedPort - I can't guarantee it will be merged, but I believe it is what you wanted.

Feel free to check out https://github.com/opentable/otj-pg-embedded/tree/FixedPort - I can't guarantee it will be merged, but I believe it is what you wanted.

Yes, this is what we could use.

• From a separate process (which I admit sounds weird to me - why not just launch postgres from a bash script then?), you'd indeed have to grep the docker container ls or use the docker api. Which sounds awful.

Because many of the products we develop and maintain already use this library to set a Postgres database up from the integration test launcher, which does not run in the same process the app does.

I wouldn't mind staying in a 0.13.4 patched revision if we had a fix for the Monterey 12.1 bug, which would guarantee we could keep running our stack the way we currently do without adding static ports, but I can't currently run 0.13.4 in my machine without workarounds.

I hear all your points, but that's not the direction this library is going. I see you have the following options

1. Redo your entire test suite. That sounds horrible
2. Figure out how to call the test suite and get the port. That's probably as bad as number 1
3. Switch to Zonky's fork of pg-embedded - it's listed in the README.
4. Provide a PR and volunteer to maintain the legacy branch of pg-embedded. The current maintainers will not be providing any more patches for Monterey (not a bug actually, but its academic). No more builds will be released by them for the pre 1.0.0 versions. Realize one of the reasons we switched was exactly this - multi platform and multi os versions make maintenance extremely difficult.
5. Wait for a while and see if other community people also think a Fixed Port support would be a good idea. You could help your case a bit by cloning the branch, building the snapshot jar, and testing it (it's not clear from your wording that you did). I will be honest and say I'm currently not particularly keen on the idea, but I could be persuaded by general community consensus.

Thank you for your breaking down our options and for your help in general, it's been very informative. I understand your point of view and I believe it's completely fair to draw boundaries on where the library is going.

Yeah, I've been testing out the branch you facilitated earlier. Although it was working well on my machine, I was afraid it would not work with our Jenkins pipelines because we'd run into a Docker-in-Docker scenario, but so far my tests have been successful, so I'd say it might be safe to upgrade versions for us.

Thanks again for your support! I'll keep an eye on the PR in case it gets merged so we can continue using official releases.

No worries, I'll wait for more feedback from folks, but as you can see, I think I layered that, so maintaining a fork and merging up shouldn't be too horrible, regardless of what the PR decision is.