[ISSUE]: Formula One 2001 - no music, no commentary

[ab310714gz4700]

Checks

• I have checked existing OPL issues for duplicates and found none
• I am using either OPL latest stable version, or archived version or OPL beta version

Describe the issue

No music and no commentary is played

Console model

SCPH-39004

OPL version / revision

OPL 1.2.0 beta 2173

In which device(s) have you experienced this issue?

MX4SIO

Context and extra information

SCES-50004 (1.01/2.00), SCUS-97150, SCPS-15019, SCED-50313

[Phantasm1990]

I confirm this issue happens on my SCPH-90010 (via USB and SMB) as well, no music during the menu and no commentary during the race, is the same on every OPL version i tried, compatibility modes do not help, even on Neutrino and PS2ESDL this keep happening.

[Phantasm1990]

For reference, this is how the game should behave
https://youtu.be/LAvDq5xtLlo?si=Hk6UT16TK2Lizgqp

[J013k]

Hmm.
Maybe a very old OPL v0.9.1 or even older OPL can help?

Anyway I have the same issue even on OPL v1.0.0.
However with ESR everything is fine.

[Phantasm1990]

Hmm. Maybe a very old OPL v0.9.1 or even older OPL can help?

Anyway I have the same issue even on OPL v1.0.0. However with ESR everything is fine.

This happens on 0.9.1 and 0.8 too

[10522]

@AKuHAK @rickgaiser @KrahJohlito @israpps @uyjulian @fjtrujy @Wolf3s is it possible to add this and this fix to OPL?

[rickgaiser]

It's possible, but I don't have the time for it. Other devs are free to copy whatever they like from neutrino to OPL though.

[Wolf3s]

It's possible, but I don't have the time for it. Other devs are free to copy whatever they like from neutrino to OPL though.

Thx, for the auth btw the implementation is simple, However there are some games that needs external modules to work.

[ab310714gz4700]

Works on ESR R9B :)
Music and commentary don't work on ESR R10F :(

[ab310714gz4700]

Fixed in Neutrino :)

[Phantasm1990]

Fixed in Neutrino :)

I used OPL-based GUI/frontend for Neutrino: https://www.psx-place.com/resources/opl-based-gui-frontend-for-neutrino.1497/

The game worked without any issue :)

I found that if you quit a race and start a new one the music and commentary stop working, for me it needs mode 5 and mode 0, the last one can't be selected on oplneut, but it can on NHDDL https://www.psx-place.com/threads/nhddl.45053/

[J013k]

I haven't noticed anywhere mode 0, nor in OPL nor in NHDDL.
Mode 5 in OPL is Emulate-DL...

Although for me in NHDDL (v0.3.0-100) + Neutrino (2024\12\06) I need:
EE: Unhook syscalls + IOP: Fix game buffer overrun to launch this game with music and a commentary:

Even if I quit a race I have music in the main menu and a commentary in new race.

[Phantasm1990]

I haven't noticed anywhere mode 0, nor in OPL nor in NHDDL. Mode 5 in OPL is Emulate-DL...

Although for me in NHDDL (v0.3.0-100) + Neutrino (2024\12\06) I need: EE: Unhook syscalls + IOP: Fix game buffer overrun to launch this game with music and a commentary: Even if I quit a race I have music in the main menu and a commentary in new race.

Mode 0 is "IOP: Fast reads", interesting that mode 3 and mode 7 works for you, i will test that later.

[J013k]

I only have 5 modes:

• Mode 1: IOP: Fast reads
• Mode 2: IOP: Sync reads
• Mode 3: EE: Unhook syscalls
• Mode 4: IOP: Emulate DVD-DL
• Mode 5: IOP: Fix game buffer overrun

There are no mode 0 or 7.

[Phantasm1990]

I only have 5 modes:

• Mode 1: IOP: Fast reads
• Mode 2: IOP: Sync reads
• Mode 3: EE: Unhook syscalls
• Mode 4: IOP: Emulate DVD-DL
• Mode 5: IOP: Fix game buffer overrun

There are no mode 0 or 7.

These are the modes that Neutrino have

Game compatibility modes, supported are:
- 0: IOP: Fast reads (sceCdRead)
- 1: dummy
- 2: IOP: Sync reads (sceCdRead)
- 3: EE : Unhook syscalls
- 5: IOP: Emulate DVD-DL
- 7: IOP: Fix game buffer overrun

https://github.com/rickgaiser/neutrino
Look under Usage instructions

[J013k]

These modes are in Neutrino.
NHDDL (which uses Neutrino) has its own layout of modes:

OPL:

I now that both of them use Neutrino but it is a different story.
When you wrote mode 0+5 I was a bit confuse.

[J013k]

I have notice that if I use Mode 1: IOP: Fast reads + Mode 5: IOP: Fix game buffer overrun in NHDDL
after I quit a race for the 3rd time I will not have any music in the main menu.
Although after 2nd quit from the race everything is ok.

With mode Mode 1: IOP: Fast reads + Mode 4: IOP: Emulate DVD-DL after 2nd quit there is no music.

For now only Mode 3: EE: Unhook syscalls + Mode 5: IOP: Fix game buffer overrun can prevent that from happening.

[Phantasm1990]

I have notice that if I use Mode 1: IOP: Fast reads + Mode 5: IOP: Fix game buffer overrun in NHDDL after I quit a race for the 3rd time I will not have any music in the main menu. Although after 2nd quit from the race everything is ok.

With mode Mode 1: IOP: Fast reads + Mode 4: IOP: Emulate DVD-DL after 2nd quit there is no music.

For now only Mode 3: EE: Unhook syscalls + Mode 5: IOP: Fix game buffer overrun can prevent that from happening.

I tested the recent Neutrino on the latest NHDDL and for me is the opposite, EE : Unhook syscalls + IOP: Fix game buffer overrun will work until the third time i quit and start a race, IOP: Fast reads + IOP: Emulate DVD-DL works for me, i quitted several times and it works as it should, this is on udpbd, on usb it will not work on the first quit with both ways.

I'm testing the SCUS-97150 version, my model is SCPH-90010.

[AKuHAK]

These modes are in Neutrino.
NHDDL (which uses Neutrino) has its own layout of modes:

@pcm720 maybe it will be useful to print neutrino mode number to avoid such confusion?

[pcm720]

@J013k

NHDDL (which uses Neutrino) has its own layout of modes

NHDDL uses the same layout of modes Neutrino does, it just doesn't expose mode numbers.
They actually go like this:

Mode 0: IOP: Fast reads
Mode 2: IOP: Sync reads
Mode 3: EE: Unhook syscalls
Mode 5: IOP: Emulate DVD-DL
Mode 7: IOP: Fix game buffer overrun

@AKuHAK

@pcm720 maybe it will be useful to print neutrino mode number to avoid such confusion?

I don't have a problem adding (Mode ?) after the mode name.
However, I might have an unpopular opinion on this, but I think OPL should stop using opaque mode numbers and just call them for what they are, like NHDDL does.

I'm 100% sure users will think that Neutrino and OPL modes are interchangeable and will simply reference them using numbers and not by actual names. Now, I'm not @rickgaiser, but I wouldn't rely on mode numbers being consistent across OPL, Neutrino and whatever may come up in the future.
In fact, we already have a case here with mode 7. In Neutrino, mode 7 is "fix game buffer overrun". In older versions of OPL, mode 7 is "high module storage". I know modes 7 and 8 were removed from OPL awhile ago, but it doesn't make this concern any less valid

[J013k]

To sum up this game to work properly it requires in some scenario to enable:

• EE: Unhook syscalls + Fix game buffer overrun
  or
• IOP: Fast reads + IOP: Emulate DVD-DL