Web Presence

[neilmanuell]

So I would be good to fill out the web site with bios of the Illuminati and such like. Also to make sure that Flash is just one of the many technologies mentioned...

[tam203]

Agreed. What about stories, rather than or as well as bio's of what try{harder} is to them?

[Stray]

+1 for that.

On 19 May 2014, at 14:46, tam203 [email protected] wrote:

Agreed. What about stories, rather than or as well as bio's of what try{harder} is to them?

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[neilmanuell]

@tam203
I've got a few write ups here and here on my webpage, that I'm happy for you too use... though they may have been used to death.
I'll see if I can think up another story.

[tam203]

OK. I'll take this one. I'll be in touch when I've worked out my plans.

[tam203]

@neilmanuell great. I think some blog links is a good idea. Might extract a sound but our two too.

[neilmanuell]

@mikecann and @richardlord have written posts too and I think @DavidArno

[richardlord]

This was my blog post - http://www.richardlord.net/blog/tryharder-level-up

[tam203]

@richardlord Thanks.

@Stray I think you shared the website log on details once but I've lost them. Can you mail them over?

[neilmanuell]

@tam203 has @Stray got you those details?

[tam203]

@neilmanuell no net yet.

[Stray]

Hi, sorry - will get them to you today Theo.

Stray

On 23 May 2014, at 10:42, tam203 [email protected] wrote:

@neilmanuell no net yet.

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[tam203]

This is what I'm thinking about the website:

1. More bio's - If your not on here (http://www.tryharder.org.uk/alumni/) send a short bio and picture and I'll put you on.
2. Scrap mentor/alumni distinction? If we are keeping it then someone will need to tell me who is who as I'm always to impressed by everyone to tell the difference
3. Add a try {harder} stories section with snipits and links to all of all the blogs etc.
4. Get rid of the blog section (only has one story), keep the content and link to from the stories section above.
5. Update "Attend 'Level-up' 2013" to 2014 - @Stray do you have the source image (http://src.sencha.io/http://www.tryharder.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Screen-Shot-2013-02-13-at-13.54.00.png) - so I can do a 2014 version?
6. For now remove references to cost. Unless we are sure of the cost?

[neilmanuell]

I think @Stray needs to answer 2 - my tuppence though - I think we can scrap the mentors, and when we do a level up in the future we can have a page explicitly for that event indicating the mentors.

If we have only one blog post, I agree it should go.

6. probably good idea to remove cost until it is finalised - @Stray can we help you with that in anyway?

[Stray]

+1 for all that.

Will seek out source image - think I probably did it in flash (oddly).

Aye - Mentor/Alumni was only about identifying who was mentoring at the 1st Level Up. Alumni sounds a bit wanky now I think, maybe just Members? What do folk think?

On the blog section - we were planning on blogging regularly by having a rota... but for now yup, just remove it.

I need to do a head count and work out costs... so yes, just remove refs for now.

Sx

On 27 May 2014, at 20:12, neil manuell [email protected] wrote:

I think @Stray needs to answer 2 - my tuppence though - I think we can scrap the mentors, and when we do a level up in the future we can have a page explicitly for that event indicating the mentors.

If we have only one blog post, I agree it should go.

6. probably good idea to remove cost until it is finalised - @Stray can we help you with that in anyway?

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[redannick]

I wonder if listing the members actually makes it all seem rather
exclusive, which might be intimidating for prospective attendees.
Especially people landing on the site without knowing any of us. Those
who do know us will undoubtedly know our enthusiasm for the event already.

Perhaps just testimonials?

Robin

On 28/05/2014 15:40, Stray wrote:

+1 for all that.

Will seek out source image - think I probably did it in flash (oddly).

Aye - Mentor/Alumni was only about identifying who was mentoring at
the 1st Level Up. Alumni sounds a bit wanky now I think, maybe just
Members? What do folk think?

On the blog section - we were planning on blogging regularly by
having a rota... but for now yup, just remove it.

I need to do a head count and work out costs... so yes, just remove
refs for now.

Sx

On 27 May 2014, at 20:12, neil manuell [email protected] wrote:

I think @Stray needs to answer 2 - my tuppence though - I think we
can scrap the mentors, and when we do a level up in the future we can
have a page explicitly for that event indicating the mentors.

If we have only one blog post, I agree it should go.

6. probably good idea to remove cost until it is finalised - @Stray
   can we help you with that in anyway?

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[Stray]

I see what you mean.

Kind of depends what try harder is I suppose? We'd talked about running it essentially as a closed group, but with a little fresh blood from time to time. Briefly Level Up looked like something that might be worth doing for money, but it actually just ran at a loss.

To be honest I can't imagine anyone truly outside our circles attending... I'd be nervous of them not getting it, and this time I'm not even sure we need to acquire new people at that rate?

If 8 - 12 of us re-attend and we add 2 to 4 people via contacts each time then that's about the right numbers.

So - I think 'exclusive' is kind of ok - not in a better-than-you way, but in an attachment way, that it's not just a buy-a-ticket-and-turn-up kind of thing?

And the idea was that we were kind of the attraction, but perhaps that's dying away now that we're not so AS3 focussed?

What do people think?

Sx

On 28 May 2014, at 15:46, redannick [email protected] wrote:

I wonder if listing the members actually makes it all seem rather
exclusive, which might be intimidating for prospective attendees.
Especially people landing on the site without knowing any of us. Those
who do know us will undoubtedly know our enthusiasm for the event already.

Perhaps just testimonials?

Robin

On 28/05/2014 15:40, Stray wrote:

+1 for all that.

Will seek out source image - think I probably did it in flash (oddly).

Aye - Mentor/Alumni was only about identifying who was mentoring at
the 1st Level Up. Alumni sounds a bit wanky now I think, maybe just
Members? What do folk think?

On the blog section - we were planning on blogging regularly by
having a rota... but for now yup, just remove it.

I need to do a head count and work out costs... so yes, just remove
refs for now.

Sx

On 27 May 2014, at 20:12, neil manuell [email protected] wrote:

I think @Stray needs to answer 2 - my tuppence though - I think we
can scrap the mentors, and when we do a level up in the future we can
have a page explicitly for that event indicating the mentors.

If we have only one blog post, I agree it should go.

6. probably good idea to remove cost until it is finalised - @Stray
   can we help you with that in anyway?

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[redannick]

I think closed group with fresh blood works fine - that's what it's been so far. And that is, by definition, exclusive in the hard-to-get way.

However, what is the web presence there for? If we want to attract even a few people with it, I think it shouldn't look like a closed group, as that might feel more like it's exclusive in a better-than-you way. If the web presence isn't to attract new people, what is it's focus?

[Stray]

Good point.

The web presence is probably an artefact of when Level Up was the thrust.

However - it's useful to be able point people who we personally interest in it, and their bosses, at the website for info.

So - not for googlers, but for people to use for research.

On 28 May 2014, at 17:18, redannick [email protected] wrote:

I think closed group with fresh blood works fine - that's what it's been so far. And that is, by definition, exclusive in the hard-to-get way.

However, what is the web presence there for? If we want to attract even a few people with it, I think it shouldn't look like a closed group, as that might feel more like it's exclusive in a better-than-you way. If the web presence isn't to attract new people, what is it's focus?

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[dansumption]

Am I right in thinking that the web presence was also a shopfront for "try
{harder} alumni" as a sort of A-Team of Flash development? i.e. not just to
promote the conferences, but also "hire us, we're the best".

On 28 May 2014 17:21, Stray [email protected] wrote:

Good point.

The web presence is probably an artefact of when Level Up was the thrust.

However - it's useful to be able point people who we personally interest
in it, and their bosses, at the website for info.

So - not for googlers, but for people to use for research.

On 28 May 2014, at 17:18, redannick [email protected] wrote:

I think closed group with fresh blood works fine - that's what it's been
so far. And that is, by definition, exclusive in the hard-to-get way.

However, what is the web presence there for? If we want to attract even
a few people with it, I think it shouldn't look like a closed group, as
that might feel more like it's exclusive in a better-than-you way. If the
web presence isn't to attract new people, what is it's focus?

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[Stray]

Aye. That was the other thought behind it - though we haven't actually used it in that way (?yet).

On 28 May 2014, at 17:25, Dan Sumption [email protected] wrote:

Am I right in thinking that the web presence was also a shopfront for "try
{harder} alumni" as a sort of A-Team of Flash development? i.e. not just to
promote the conferences, but also "hire us, we're the best".

On 28 May 2014 17:21, Stray [email protected] wrote:

Good point.

The web presence is probably an artefact of when Level Up was the thrust.

However - it's useful to be able point people who we personally interest
in it, and their bosses, at the website for info.

So - not for googlers, but for people to use for research.

On 28 May 2014, at 17:18, redannick [email protected] wrote:

I think closed group with fresh blood works fine - that's what it's been
so far. And that is, by definition, exclusive in the hard-to-get way.

However, what is the web presence there for? If we want to attract even
a few people with it, I think it shouldn't look like a closed group, as
that might feel more like it's exclusive in a better-than-you way. If the
web presence isn't to attract new people, what is it's focus?

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[tam203]

Ok, I'll press on roughly as planned. Personally I would like seeing my face next to all these grates.

As to exclusivity I would agree with @redannick that it is exclusive but that's not a bad thing.

What's the point/why? I think having a place to collect the faces and the stories would be nice, Though perhaps GitHub or something more collaborative is better for that?

What is try harder? It's definitely the people, it more than the sum of it's parts and as @neilmanuell says we need to find a way to de-couple it from @Stray or anyone else and perhaps a website, repo, or some other central body helps with that?

[Stray]

Could be the special chars in Wrobel's name?

Can't remember if I bodged that or just ignored them!

On 28 May 2014, at 22:20, tam203 [email protected] wrote:

@wrobel221 it's nothing personal but you've temporarily been removed from the site as for some reason you're messing up the formatting. Will get you back on shortly....

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[tam203]

Turned out it was just his place in the list. It was a css issue. Some
Bio's longer than others and so they don't stack right.

Added css fix

#portfolio-list div.four.columns:nth-of-type(5){
clear:left;
}

On 28 May 2014 22:35, Stray [email protected] wrote:

Could be the special chars in Wrobel's name?

Can't remember if I bodged that or just ignored them!

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@wrobel221 it's nothing personal but you've temporarily been removed
from the site as for some reason you're messing up the formatting. Will get
you back on shortly....

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