Compact URI speaks about "type" and "id" (not "@type" or "@id" as in JSON-LD documentation)

[jonassmedegaard]

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Section https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-core/#compact-uris talks about using JSON-LD syntax involving "id" but https://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld/#compact-iris only talks about "@id", nowhere is "id" mentioned.

[jonassmedegaard]

...and "type" should also be "@type" below the example, it seems.

[jonassmedegaard]

...or rather, it seems that everywhere "type" should instead be "@type".

[nightpool]

If you look at the context document, you'll see that the type and id properties are defined as aliases of the @type and @id terms. Every JSON-LD library I've used has handled this aliasing correctly, so I don't think this is "bogus syntax"

[jonassmedegaard]

@nightpool which context document?

Sorry if I phrased this too strongly. And even more sorry if this turns out to be only me needing education on how to read things.

[nightpool]

@jonassmedgaard if you look at the beginning of each JSON-LD document, you'll see a property that says "@context": "https://www.w3.org/ns/activitystreams". this is a link to the JSON-LD context document, where all other terms that appear in the document are defined. In particular, you'll see two definitions near the top of the file:

    "id": "@id",
    "type": "@type",

these tell you how to resolve the terms type and id when you see them in the document.

[jonassmedegaard]

Thanks, @nightpool - makes perfect sense now, and indeed was only an issue of my comprehension.

Closing as a non-bug.

[jonassmedegaard]

Sorry no, I insist: It might be that ActivityStreams 2.0 generally rely on its @context defining id and @type but Example 29 in Figure 31 does not use ActivityStreams 2.0 context, and I also cannot see the following paragraphs implying an ActivityStreams 2.0 context either - seems pretty explicit to me that section 5.1 a.ka. https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-core/#compact-uris is generally about JSON-LD and therefore should use the JSON-LD terms "@id" and "@type".

Specifically this sentence (my original reason for filing this issue) seem outright wrong to me:

In JSON-LD, Compact URI expansion of values applies to properties explicitly defined as "type": "id" in the @context definition.

I can only read that sentence as JSON-LD generally define a ned for type being id (not @id) which I fail to locate JSON-LD 1.0 specification stating anywhere - but I can locate it stating the opposite.

[nightpool]

ah, you're right, section 5.1 does appear to have a few typos in it. my guess is that this is the result of an incautious find and replace when the type and id aliases were introduced. this sentence is correct: "Such expansion applies to all property names as well as all property values explicitly defined as type @id in the JSON-LD @context."

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[evanp]

I have made an update to the ERRATA to note this error. The PR is here:

#546

Please comment on the PR if you have further input.

[evanp]

I'm going to add this to the upcoming CG agenda.