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[!!] Updated Filters in Step 4 #317
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OK. Even though this tool is for more advanced users who know WCAG, I think not everyone will be as clear of the relationship between 2.0 and 2.1 as most of us are, and we don't want this to be confusing at all. :-) I think if we had just [New in WCAG 2.1] [WCAG 2.0], some people might be looking for WCAG 2.1 period, and not realize that by selecting both of those, they get all of WCAG 2.1. Even though it is a bit redundant, I wonder if to be clearest we have three filters: |
@rvantonisse right now we have two buttons in Step 4, which can be selected and unselected in any combination. You have to know that you need to select "WCAG 2.1" and unselect "WCAG 2.0" to get the diff of criteria only in 2.1 (not really clear to figure out, even for advanced users). Also, you can unselect "WCAG 2.1" and "WCAG 2.0", which does not really make any sense. Can we easily switch these to three buttons, of which exactly one of them is selected at any time - specifically: "WCAG 2.1" or "WCAG 2.0", or "New in WCAG 2.1" (in this order)? |
Thank you for the input!
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No and yes.
I prefer something like option 3b. More like "Added since WCAG ...". And in combination with:
Adding three options for version filtering only makes sense to me when applied like in the quickref as a select, like yatil showed. I prefer to stay with 2 WCAG version filtering and rephrase it like mentioned by bakkenb in 3b. |
I don't know if it just me but selecting WCAG 2.0 on Step 1 does not uncheck WCAG 2.1 in Step 4 |
+1 to keep the initial selection in Step 4 matching what they selected in Step 1 -- and also let them change it in Step 4 if they want to.
Maybe instead of "Filter" it should be "Show" or something else??
In a different situation, I would agree -- e.g., if this was an in-house tool that users were trained on. Since it's not, I don't think we can count on users figuring it out, especially without a lot of frustration. |
Thank you for your comment @cochfarf . Asume that it does (If it is not implemented now, it will be like how it is done with the level filtering). It will only set filter values before you visit step 4. After visiting step 4, step 1 does not anymore affect the filter in step 4. if you want to test this, make sure to refresh the page at step one, adjust version and or conformance target and open step 4. |
@rvantonisse pre-setting the filters seems to not work on some browsers? In any case, I think that is a separate issue (Issue #317)? |
@slhenry I don't understand what you are suggesting. Would the following work for you?
Thaz is, change the label from "filters" to "show", and change the button name "WCAG 2.1" to "New in WCAG 2.1". If not, please explain what you find confusing or what alternative you suggest. |
I think having three checkboxes instead of the current two would be better.
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What Daniel mentions is what I was trying to say in the planning meeting on Wednesday. I feel it would be better too, but I understand that it is not actually needed. Would have to see the two buttons in place and working to know whether I feel a third would be better for those trying to use the resource for the first time, or those not familiar with the difference between 2.0 and 2.1. |
@bakkenb @slhenry @daniel-montalvo please check if the changes made by @rvantonisse address your concern: http://w3c.github.io/wcag-em-report-tool/dist/#!/evaluation/audit |
Yes, it does. It is clearer now. I find it helpful that the two checks are selected if you have previously chosen WCAG 2.1 in step 1. I think adding "New in 2.1" communicates that selecting 2.1 in step 1 means SC from 2.0 + new SC in 2.1, and we are showing these checked in step 4, which clarifies the purpose of the filters. In addition, we are letting them choose for a second time in step 4 what they want to evaluate as they could uncheck one of these filters. I still feel consistency with how the quick reference presents the information would be worthy but definitely not feeling strongly. |
+1 to this... although I feel a little bit more strongly. There is an element of thinking require along the lines of 'to get 2.1 I have to click both 2.0 and new in 2.1'. This goes away if you have three options: 2.0, 2.1, Only 2.1. |
RESOLUTION from EOWG telecon 13 Dec same looking buttons, with options/radio buttons (instead of checkboxes): ()WCAG 2.1 ()New in WCAG 2.1 ()WCAG 2.0 |
I’m mildly concerned with this resolution. (But not enough to warrant holding up publishing this resource.)
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We should settle on this before we publish it, so we don't want to change it later (and annoy users) or increase inconsistency just because we didn't think about it. SummaryStraw Proposal: Instead of "New in WCAG 2.1", use: "Added in WCAG 2.1" or "Added in 2.1" Background & RationaleFor easy reference,
I agree consistency is generally good. Although with differently audiences, we might want minor differences (explained below). Also, once people are used to an interface, (like the QuickRef), it's generally better not to change it unless strongly warranted. The order in this Report Tool makes a bit more sense for my brain:
I think "New" is OK when you're talking about criteria that are added, even after time. "New in 2.1" will always be correct, even years from now. i.e., it's new from 2.0 to 2.1, rather than it's new today. In the future, we could have:
I'm also OK with "Added in 2.1" instead of "New in 2.1", i.e.,
If both work OK for others, then probably we want to use "Added in WCAG 2.1" or "Added in 2.1" so it's closer to the QuickRef. (related comment in quickref issues) |
+1 to “Added in WCAG 2.1” |
Updated (final) RESOLUTION from EOWG telecon 20 Dec: Change "New in WCAG 2.1" to "Added in WCAG 2.1" |
Link to proposed Step 4 page with updated filters:
http://w3c.github.io/wcag-em-report-tool/dist/#!/evaluation/audit
I played with the filters some more. Currently the filter titled "WCAG 2.1" shows only the 17 new Success Criteria, not all Success Criteria in 2.1. Although I see a strong use case for only wanting to see those Criteria, I find the button title inaccurate and possibly misleading to those who are new to accessibility.
I am okay with the functionality that if no filters are selected (WCAG version or conformance level) nothing shows. That is common sense.
Based on brief EOWG discussion and followup, I suggest:
3.a. Functionality: "WCAG 2.1" actually shows all of the WCAG 2.1 Success Criteria or,
3.b. Label is something like "New in WCAG 2.1"
I can think of a use case where people would want to do a report only on the new 2.1 Success Criteria, therefore I lean towards scenario 3.b but would like to hear what the group thinks.
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