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Remove Farsight and Hold That Chunk #656

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Madis0 opened this issue Jun 2, 2023 · 5 comments
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Remove Farsight and Hold That Chunk #656

Madis0 opened this issue Jun 2, 2023 · 5 comments
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Madis0 commented Jun 2, 2023

What config to change

Remove Farsight from CurseForge edition and Hold That Chunk from Modrinth edition of the modpack.

Why should it be changed

  • Despite several discussions, Farsight dev still does not allow its distribution on Modrinth
    • Farsight is closed-source, so it cannot be forked either
  • Fabulously Optimized's usage on Modrinth is the highest it has ever been, and only increasing
  • The split situation has been around for over 7 months
  • Hold That Chunk still does not have feature parity with Farsight, and has some bugs
    • It is also not very actively developed in the recent months
  • Some players have a concern that any of these mods decrease performance
  • Some players prefer another alternative, like Bobby or Nvidium, both of which do the same but are unsuitable for FO

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#46 #556 #354 #437 #184

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Madis0 commented Jun 19, 2023

An alternative mod is being worked on that gets the best features from both.

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Farsight doesn't cache, reloads every time I leave a zone.So I think bobby's better than it.

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Madis0 commented Sep 14, 2023

This question has been up in the air for a long time now, and I've realized that there is no "right mod" to include in FO. All these mods are relative and do their thing a bit differently, serving different use cases. And there are also players that use the chunk distance of 8 or less and don't know the difference either way.

Therefore, Farsight and Hold That Chunk will be removed with FO version 5.4.0.

Here is a list of mods you can pick from and install for yourself:

  • Farsight - temporary chunk cache, extended render distances up to 64 chunks
  • Hold That Chunk - temporary chunk cache that gets cleared over time
  • Bobby - temporary or stored chunk cache, can work with singleplayer worlds as a seed-based blueprint
  • Nvidium - NVIDIA GPU-specific mod that works as an add-on to Sodium, increases FPS and caches chunks temporarily
  • Distant Horizons - temporary chunk cache that renders chunks differently, so should a lot perform better than others, but is currently in alpha and no shader support
  • Unnamed mod - I know that one mod similar to these is being built, but the name and repo are not yet known.

With all that said, I'm still gonna leave Distant Horizons issue #240 open for future consideration. That mod is very alpha-quality right now and it might stay so for years, but unlike the others it actually overhauls the distant chunk rendering system to allow for better game performance, regardless of whether chunks are cached (there is an option) or not.

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Madis0 commented Oct 6, 2023

Completed in 5.4.0

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I'd recommend checking out this thread again, as Distant Horizons is almost into its beta and has more decent shader support than before.

This was referenced Nov 29, 2024
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