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SPADL defines 4 different event types for describing save/ball recovery actions by keepers:
Action type
Description
Success
Keeper save
Keeper saves a shot on goal
Always success
Keeper claim
Keeper catches a cross
Does not drop the bal.
Keeper punch
Keeper punches the ball clear
Always success.
Keeper pick-up
Keeper picks up the ball
Always success
First, it is somewhat unclear what the differences between these four events are. For example,
When a keeper saves a shot but can not claim the ball, is it a "keeper save" or "keeper punch" action? Or are "keeper punch" actions only for crosses?
When a keeper rushes out to either cut out an attacking pass (in a race with the opposition player) or to close-down an opposition player is that a pick-up or a claim?
Is there a difference between a keeper pick-up and interception action (apart from the body part). If there is no difference it might be better to simply drop the keeper pick-up action.
Second, there are incenstensies between the different converters.
The keeper pick-up action is missing in the StatsBomb and Wyscout converters. I believe that "Goalkeeper" events with type "collected (25)" and outcome "success (15)" should be converted to this type, while events with outcome "claim (47)" should be keeper claim events.
Both the keeper pick-up and keeper claim actions are missing in the Wyscout converter
The definition of SPADL states that keeper saves will always have 'success' as a result, but the Statsbomb action-attribute pair 'Shot Saved (In Play Danger)' would lead to a conversion to a failed keeper save action. The same goes for the Statsbomb action-attribute pair 'Punch (In Play Danger)', although I'm not sure whether that combination can actually occur in the data.
A related point was raised in #45: How should keeper throws be addressed? Is a keeper throw also considered a goal kick in terms of SPADL actions? I think it makes sense to either have separate SPADL actions for these two, or one (renamed?) SPADL action for them both. I do not think that a keeper throw should be considered a regular pass, since there is no pressure on the keeper to execute this action quickly (in contrast to a regular pass). Therefore it may need a different treatment when processing the data.
Although keeper actions are not very important in the action valuing frameworks, this might be useful in other applications of SPADL. Therefore, I believe it would be good to agree upon a definition for these events and fix the inconsistencies in the converters.
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SPADL defines 4 different event types for describing save/ball recovery actions by keepers:
First, it is somewhat unclear what the differences between these four events are. For example,
Second, there are incenstensies between the different converters.
A related point was raised in #45: How should keeper throws be addressed? Is a keeper throw also considered a goal kick in terms of SPADL actions? I think it makes sense to either have separate SPADL actions for these two, or one (renamed?) SPADL action for them both. I do not think that a keeper throw should be considered a regular pass, since there is no pressure on the keeper to execute this action quickly (in contrast to a regular pass). Therefore it may need a different treatment when processing the data.
Although keeper actions are not very important in the action valuing frameworks, this might be useful in other applications of SPADL. Therefore, I believe it would be good to agree upon a definition for these events and fix the inconsistencies in the converters.
The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: