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Further price-related concepts #1488

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l-emele opened this issue Feb 23, 2023 · 4 comments
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Further price-related concepts #1488

l-emele opened this issue Feb 23, 2023 · 4 comments
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l-emele commented Feb 23, 2023

Description of the issue

Part of the SIROP project is to include macro-economic and time dependent monetary concepts. We had an Oeko-internal meeting and identified a list of missing concepts including some first definition proposals and a priority. This meta issue deals with price concepts. See also parallel issues on macro-economic concepts (#1487) and policies and measures (#1545).

Next step would be to discuss these concepts at an OEO dev meeting. Afterwards we might split the list into further sub-issues for closely related concepts.

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English term German term Definition proposal Comment Unit Priority & issue
energy price Energiepreis An energy price is a monetary price per energy amount. Make electricity price a subclass. -- Difficulty that energy price can be based on physical basis (volume, mass) or on energy content. Distinguish between energy price and fuel price? currency per ? high
fuel price Brennstoffpreis currency per ? high
International (wholesale) fuel import prices Grenzübergangspreis currency per ? high
wholesale price Großhandelspreis currency per ? high
consumer price / national retail fuel price Endkundenpreis currency per ? high
gross price Bruttopreis medium
net price Nettopreis Only excl. VAT or excluding all taxes? medium
value added tax Mehrwertsteuer / Umsatzsteuer A value added tax is a tax that ... medium
EU-ETS price Preis im EU-ETS An EU-ETS price is an emission certificate price of an EU Allowance.
? Preis im nationalen Emissionshandel (nEHS) low
? nEHS certificate An nEHS certificate is an emission certificate used in the German national emission trading system. It permits the CO2 emission of a quantity of 1 tonne. low

List to be continued!

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  • every entry in the ontology should have a definition
  • classes should arise from concepts rather than from words
@l-emele l-emele added [A] new term Including new term(s) in the ontology oeo dev meeting Discuss issue at oeo dev meeting oeo-social changes the oeo-social module meta issue Issue that collects information about topics and will be closed after detailled issues are solved. To do Issues that haven't got discussed yet labels Feb 23, 2023
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han-f commented May 17, 2023

the currency per ? in column comment - should this not in column unit instead?
As a first idea comes to mind currency per energy unit (e.g. MWh), but I am not sure if the definition of energy unit in the OEO would fit? It reads: A unit which is a standard measure of the work done by a certain force (gravitational, electric, magnetic, force of inertia, etc).

Will we also need to add individuals to classes such as currency and ### unit ?

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han-f commented May 17, 2023

Other than that I also think we could take this on to an OEO dev meeting in the same manner as #1487

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l-emele commented May 17, 2023

the currency per ? in column comment - should this not in column unit instead?

I fixed this.

As a first idea comes to mind currency per energy unit (e.g. MWh), but I am not sure if the definition of energy unit in the OEO would fit? It reads: A unit which is a standard measure of the work done by a certain force (gravitational, electric, magnetic, force of inertia, etc).

Yes that is right. But additionally, "energy" prices are sometimes in different units. E.g. at a filling station, the price is usually in Euro per litre.

Will we also need to add individuals to classes such as currency and ### unit ?

Having currencies like Euro and US dollar as individuals seems right.

Other than that I also think we could take this on to an OEO dev meeting in the same manner as #1487

That is a good idea.

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l-emele commented May 17, 2023

I've put this issue on the agenda for OEO dev meeting 60: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/oeo-dev-60

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