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Watcher nerf #6237

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@Git-Nivrak Git-Nivrak commented May 3, 2024

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Watcher facehugger strain now takes damage off weeds the same as the base variant

Explain why it's good for the game

It's a straight up upgrade to the base variant + Metagaming afk marines \ open cades from ghost is cancer

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balance: Watcher is now immobilized when zoomed out and loses health off weeds when not zoomed out
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Watcher's entire gimmick is losing the ability to hide while gaining the ability to move off weeds without taking damage, this PR literally just makes the strain entirely pointless since it removes the main effect of the strain.

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Theres no good argument as to why a free role that can permanetly change the round of somebody, which cost no resources basically to be moveable off weeds without any consequences, this strain is literally just an upgrade and this is required. hiding or not doesnt matter when youre ghosted and just go watch the afk marine.

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Horrible design idea, but might cut down on metagaming: What if huggers and lessers had a 20-30 second minimum incubation time inwhich they're forced to sit in hive with no dchat or ghosting. There would be no hive-limit and no ghost-time requirement to start incubation, but would automatically spawn the hugger/lesser once the players ghost-cooldown and the hive's limits become available.

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Drulikar commented May 4, 2024

Horrible design idea, but might cut down on metagaming: What if huggers and lessers had a 20-30 second minimum incubation time inwhich they're forced to sit in hive with no dchat or ghosting. There would be no hive-limit and no ghost-time requirement to start incubation, but would automatically spawn the hugger/lesser once the players ghost-cooldown and the hive's limits become available.

Not a discussion for here, but if you've read some of Harry and my messages on discord & forums, you'll know that something along the lines of this will be implemented for the entire hive. As in to be in the xenomorph queue, you will become a ghost of some kind tethered to that hive's weeds/xenos. This will include lessers & huggers.

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Please instead make this so the watcher hugger has the toggle zoom ability. When that ability is active, health decrease off of weeds halts (but you do not heal either) and you are anchored in place. Otherwise without the toggle_zoom ability you will lose health off weeds just like regular hugger.

@Drulikar Drulikar marked this pull request as draft May 4, 2024 00:03
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@Drulikar Drulikar marked this pull request as draft May 4, 2024 09:42
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@@ -195,6 +195,10 @@
client.pixel_x = -viewoffset
client.pixel_y = 0

for (var/datum/action/xeno_action/onclick/toggle_long_range/action in actions)
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This is a weird way to do this, but using get_xeno_action_by_type isn't much better so its whatever.

@Drulikar Drulikar added the Balance Approved This PR has had its balance and gameplay-affecting aspects approved. Cry to the Head-maint about it. label May 5, 2024
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Merged via the queue into cmss13-devs:master with commit 2c24394 May 5, 2024
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