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Same as #46978 but for a different base branch.

@oliviertassinari oliviertassinari added docs Improvements or additions to the documentation. package: @mui/base Specific to @mui/base (legacy). type: bug It doesn't behave as expected. labels Sep 25, 2025
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@oliviertassinari oliviertassinari force-pushed the clearify-mui-base-2 branch 2 times, most recently from cab9487 to 60e2fab Compare September 25, 2025 23:57
@oliviertassinari oliviertassinari changed the title [docs] Clearify MUI Base != Base UI v2 [docs] Clearify MUI Base != Base UI (2/2) Sep 25, 2025
@mapache-salvaje mapache-salvaje changed the title [docs] Clearify MUI Base != Base UI (2/2) [docs] Clarify MUI Base != Base UI (2/2) Sep 26, 2025
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title: An exciting year ahead for Base UI
title: An exciting year ahead for MUI Base: Base UI
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this article is about Base UI, though?

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We rewrote the history, we said that what we were working on since 2021 was MUI Base, and we rebranded to Base UI late 2024.

So at the time this was written, early 2024, it was still MUI Base.

That made a lot of sense in the beginning because we didn't intend for MUI Base to be a standalone product at the time.
As a result of this early decision, we've seen that some developers are hesitant to try it out because of the apparent association with Material Design.
Rest assured that Base UI _is_ a standalone library, and it doesn't come packaged with _any_ default styles or themes.
Rest assured that MUI Base _is_ a standalone library, and it doesn't come packaged with _any_ default styles or themes.
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This text is extremely confusing. Very few readers will be able to make sense of Base UI vs MUI Base in this context, and I can't imagine many people are reading this blog in late 2025 anyway. I don't think it's worthwhile to bother with edits like this. If you think the blog post is going to confuse people, I think it should just be removed.

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I can't imagine many people are reading this blog in late 2025 anyway.

The problem is that this blog post shows up when searching on Google for Base UI vs MUI Base.

This text is extremely confusing.

What is confusing?

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A few thoughts:

  • Many users still don't understand that MUI != Material UI. Even as someone who has firsthand knowledge of the history of Base UI, I had a hard time making sense of this text. The names are so similar, it's hard to keep track of which is which, and it's not clear as a reader why it matters.
  • A blog post with the slug /base-ui-2025-plans would quickly and easily outrank this post in a google search and it would be much simpler for users to comprehend - plans have changed, here's the latest news
    • then we could add a note at the top of the 2024 blog post to let users know there have been significant updates that they can read about in the newer post
  • In the absence of a new blog post, it would still make more sense to just add a callout to the top of this post to note that it's outdated and plans have changed
  • In general I'm not a fan of "rewriting history" in this way - at best it's confusing for users, and it leaves us with the burden of dozens of outdated timely posts to consider revising every few months
    • this is why publishers differentiate between "timely" content and "evergreen" content - the timely stuff isn't worth your time to constantly update when things change, and if it's confusing or misleading then it's best to just delete
    • if we want evergreen content on this topic, we should create a post called something like /mui-base-vs-base-ui-comparison to address it directly

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