[gby] Remove ʻ 02BB from index

[moyogo]

Gbari [gby] orthography uses the apostrophe, or sometimes turned comma, for the elision of prefix e- in nominalization.

In some works U+02BB MODIFIER LETTER TURNED COMMA is used, for example in Harley & Rosendall 2022 [1] or in Bible for Children translations [2]. [Edit: At first this didn’t seem consistent as some other apostrophe characters are used as well, but given additional examples found, it’s de facto used if not the norm. However, it is definitely not a letter for the index exemplar.]

In one of the Bible for Children translations [3], the elision is represented with ‘ U+2018 LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK on the title page of the PDF and with ʻ U+02BB in the rest of the document but the nested opening quote is also represented with ʻ U+02BB: “Ke Zafnu de mula nyigo yi é gna ɗye, ʻZhi!’ Ke zanɗye wa wo ɗye ʻZhi!’ Ke zanɗye nuwna miwnu wo wo nya wo zhi. Ke zanɗye a ɓawo nya, wo go nuwna wyewye nyi tantaki.”

The 2023 digital version of the 1956 Gbari New Testament [4], albeit using an old orthography, uses ' U+0027 APOSTROPHE.

Looking at some documents, it’s not clear if ʻ U+02BB or ' U+0027 or ‘ U+2018 should be in the base characters exemplar as it is not listed as a letter from the Philip & Seshi 2004 orthography [5] in Alerechi & Chiemezie 2019 [6]. But the turned comma shape ʻ U+02BB or ‘ U+2018 is used in the orthography reference A. N. Philip, How to read and write Gbari, 2020 [7] so it makes sense to have it in the base character exemplar, but not in the index character exemplar.

Philip 2020 does mention or shows acute, grave, circumflex, caron being used for tones on vowels in certain words.

[1] Matthew Harley, Patrick Rosendall, Word break conflicts and elision in Gbari nominalizations, Annual Conference on African Linguistics, University of San Diego, 7-9 April 2022, 2022, https://www.sil.org/resources/archives/96517
[2] Baibulu Aɓeta, https://bibleforchildren.org/languages/gbagyi_east/stories.php
[1] Sanɗye Tswashe Wa Snu Ayna Khikhiri Ge Nya https://bibleforchildren.org/PDFs/gbagyi_east/01_When_God_Made_Everything_Gbagyi_east.pdf
[3] Edward Hughes et al., Shenzhi, Tswashe ‘Pyi Mari, Aɓyanƙe Baibulu = Bible for Children, 2022, https://bibleforchildren.org/PDFs/gbagyi_east/60_Heaven_Gods_Beautiful_Home_Gbagyi_east.pdf
[4] Gbari New Testament (Hay Version) , 1956, https://bibliamundi.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Gbari-Bible-New-Testament.pdf
[5] A. N. Philip et N. Sheshi, The Gbari orthography, Minna, Gbari Language Development Committee, 2004
[6] R. I. Alerechi, O. A. Chiemezie, ”The Syllable Structure of Gbari“, The International Journal of Humanities & Social Studies, vol. 7, no. 12, 2019, 215-225, https://www.internationaljournalcorner.com/index.php/theijhss/article/view/150668
[7] A. N. Philip, How to read and write Gbari, 2020

[moyogo]

Looking at A. N. Philip, How to read and write Gbari, 2020, which uses a turned comma instead of any apostrophe, even in English, or Luka 'pa de Gbari gbe yi. I’ve modified the PR to only remove U+02BB from the index character exemplar.

[LornaSIL]

I wonder if this is worth a discussion when there are multiple ways people have used an apostrophe-looking character. Would it be better to include one we think is "correct" in the exemplars and the one(s) people sometimes use because they are easy to type in auxiliary?

[mhosken]

I think it would be good to help language groups address this. For example if this is the only addition over an English character set then I would suggest a simple apostrophe because it will be nearly impossible to get anyone to type anything else. Now we could add U+02BB as an auxilliary, saying this is what to use in typesetting. Or they can make 02BB the primary and apostrophe auxilliary. This is also a case for language specific Normalization perhaps via a transform in C/SLDR.

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