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Xeno interactions with reinforced walls and window frames #4005

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@GoldenDarkness55 GoldenDarkness55 commented Jul 26, 2023

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Allows acid below boiler level to melt reinforced window frames and reinforced walls.
Allows t2s to make holes in reinforced walls.

Explain why it's good for the game

Reinf frames are already slashable, forgot to make them meltable when I PR'd slash fixes way back. Makes no sense to require boiler acid for these.

Since marines were buffed to be capable of making reinforced walls planetside and no one updated xenos to be able to break them, the meta thing to do has been to simply wall off flanks to FOB or tcomms with these as it prevents any t2s from accessing the area - it's way too easy and cheap to remove player interaction in this way. The intended way to protect flanks is to have people and/or sentry guns there, not wall them off else that'd be done by the mapper to begin with.
It also admittedly makes little sense to restrict slashing in this way, this PR makes it more consistent with bolted and welded doors aswell as window frames and other structures - the only difference between walls and RWalls being that they take longer to break due to more health.

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balance: Xenos no longer require boiler acid to melt reinforced walls.
balance: Xenos no longer require t3 claws to make holes in reinforced walls.
qol: Xenos no longer require boiler acid to melt reinforced window frames.
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@github-actions github-actions bot added Balance You need to be a professional veteran game maintainer to comprehend what is being done here. Quality of Life Make the game harder to play labels Jul 26, 2023
@GoldenDarkness55 GoldenDarkness55 changed the title Xenos and reinforced walls and window frames Xeno interactions with reinforced walls and window frames Jul 26, 2023
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tbh I'd make rwalls meltable but not slashable by non-t3s. Walls should be somewhat useful, they have their downsides. Slashing time isn't really important because you can stack as many xenos as you want and remove every wall in 5 seconds.

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GoldenDarkness55 commented Jul 28, 2023

tbh I'd make rwalls meltable but not slashable by non-t3s. Walls should be somewhat useful, they have their downsides. Slashing time isn't really important because you can stack as many xenos as you want and remove every wall in 5 seconds.

That'd prevent lurkers from opening them though. If xenos stack like that it's probably for fob sieging which is fine imo, probably not even that big a difference in practice if a warrior or two join in all the t3s. There's also still the timed action to actually rip the wall open.

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this will make any surv gameplay like 100% unsurvivable outside of LZ camping

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If marines are entirely surrounding it, this is an admin issue. I don't see why this PR is needed currently.

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If marines are entirely surrounding it, this is an admin issue. I don't see why this PR is needed currently.

That's not what the PR is about at all. It's mostly done on LV where marines wall off side entrances to the LZ.

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