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Update Japanese Translation #272

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@Takym Takym commented Jul 1, 2021 •
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Hello

I updated the Japanese translations.

2022/11/16: This PR contains #355

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clzls commented Jul 1, 2021

Seems to be similar to #209 ... I haven't dig into MS Japanese Style Guide yet but I'm sure that subdirectory should be left as サブディレクトリ and do not change sub- into Kanji (HERE)

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Takym commented Jul 1, 2021

Seems to be similar to #209 ...

I recreated the PR to exclude "README.ja.md". It is my fault that I forgot to write this to the description.

I haven't dig into MS Japanese Style Guide yet but I'm sure that subdirectory should be left as サブディレクトリ and do not change sub- into Kanji (HERE)

I fixed back "子" into "サブ".

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I made changes to these words in this PR:

  • Directory: "ディレクトリー" ---> "ディレクトリ"
    • I removed excess long-sound symbols.
  • Current directory: "作業ディレクトリ" ---> "現在のディレクトリ"
    • This was originally "カレント ディレクトリー".
  • Original file name: "オリジナルのファイル名" ---> "元のファイル名"
  • File type: "ファイル タイプ" ---> "ファイルの種類"
  • Rename: "リネーム" ---> "名前の変更"
  • Cancel: "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ" ---> "キャンセル"
    • I just changed the character width into full-width.
  • Sort: "ソート" ---> "並び替え"
  • Command prompt: "Cmd シェル" ---> "コマンド プロンプト"
  • Notepad: "notepad.exe" ---> "メモ帳"
  • Encrypted: "&Encrypted" ---> "暗号化(&E)"
  • "ディレクトリーを読み込み中。お待ち下さい..." ---> "ディレクトリを読み込んでいます。しばらくお待ち下さい..."
    • I formatted the sentence into honorific style.
  • Other small fixes.

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clzls commented Sep 21, 2021

Maybe you can find someone who is a native speaker of Japanese to review this PR? I don't know how a MS project accept a large PR about translation. @craigwi

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Takym commented Sep 21, 2021

I think contributors in azure-docs.ja-jp may review this PR, but I have not contacted them yet.

PS: I can subdivide this PR as long as time allows. Should I?

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clzls commented Nov 10, 2022

(I, personally speaking, think some expressions and forms of this software (seldom using of honorific form) make this retro software "more like a 1990s thing", such as half-width katakana ｷｬﾝｾﾙ and less kanji to suit low-DPI screens, and reflect how computer concepts were translated at that time... I would like to keep it as-is, except for some new string such as "&Encrypted" ---> "暗号化(&E)"...)

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We now have two PRs with Japanese translation, which most likley already have conflicts

To get out of this I suggest that

@craigwims: What do you think?

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Starting with this PR (#272) and then finishing #355 makes sense.

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Takym commented Nov 11, 2022

(I, personally speaking, think some expressions and forms of this software (seldom using of honorific form) make this retro software "more like a 1990s thing", such as half-width katakana ｷｬﾝｾﾙ and less kanji to suit low-DPI screens, and reflect how computer concepts were translated at that time... I would like to keep it as-is, except for some new string such as "&Encrypted" ---> "暗号化(&E)"...)

Thank you for the reply. I mechanically replaced all full-width katakanas with half-width katakanas. I will copy these files into this PR branch if this is no problem.

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Takym commented Nov 11, 2022

I would like to add an option to switch between half-width and full-width katakanas. May I add a new language (lang code: ja) for half-width katakana?

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Sorry forgive me may lack japanese know-how with respect to half/full-width katakanas, but I think as first we should try to get this PR consistently through.
To do so we need the approval of all currently active Japanese speaking contributors: @tokomio-sun , @clzls , @Takym

If you ask me I would create a possible half-width katakana language in an extra PR and most likely after the planned release, but @craigwims is the boss here :-)

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I would prefer to separate the half-width / full-width question to a separate PR. Let's make this PR to be consistent with respect to width and get final input from those mentioned above.

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Takym commented Nov 11, 2022

Certainly. I will create an issue to discuss about switching half or full width.

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What are the remaining steps / approvals needed on this PR?

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src/lang/winfile_ja-JP.dlg
@@ -75,7 +75,7 @@ BEGIN
WS_BORDER | WS_VSCROLL

DEFPUSHBUTTON "OK", IDOK, 218, 6, 40, 14, WS_GROUP
PUSHBUTTON "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ", IDCANCEL, 218, 23, 40, 14, WS_GROUP
PUSHBUTTON "キャンセル", IDCANCEL, 218, 23, 40, 14, WS_GROUP
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src/lang/winfile_ja-JP.dlg
@@ -93,7 +93,7 @@ BEGIN
CONTROL "ドライブ(&D):", IDD_DRIVE1, "static", SS_LEFTNOWORDWRAP | WS_CHILD, 5, 5, 41, 10
CONTROL "", IDD_DRIVE, "listbox", LBS_NOTIFY | LBS_SORT | LBS_STANDARD | LBS_USETABSTOPS | WS_BORDER | WS_VSCROLL | WS_CHILD | WS_TABSTOP, 5, 16, 140, 60
CONTROL "OK", IDOK, "button", BS_DEFPUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 155, 6, 40, 14
CONTROL "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 155, 23, 40, 14
CONTROL "キャンセル", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 155, 23, 40, 14
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src/lang/winfile_ja-JP.dlg
@@ -108,7 +108,7 @@ BEGIN
CONTROL "実行時に最小化(&M)", IDD_LOAD, "button", BS_AUTOCHECKBOX | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 3, 45, 91, 12
CONTROL "管理者として実行(&A)", IDD_RUNAS, "button", BS_AUTOCHECKBOX | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 84, 45, 91, 12
CONTROL "OK", 1, "button", BS_DEFPUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 165, 6, 40, 14
CONTROL "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ", 2, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 165, 23, 40, 14
CONTROL "キャンセル", 2, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 165, 23, 40, 14
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src/lang/winfile_ja-JP.dlg
@@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ BEGIN
CONTROL "", IDD_NAME, "edit", ES_LEFT | ES_AUTOHSCROLL | WS_BORDER | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 5, 29, 60, 12
CONTROL "選択(&S)", IDOK, "button", BS_DEFPUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 70, 6, 40, 14
CONTROL "解除(&D)", IDYES, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 70, 23, 40, 14
CONTROL "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 70, 40, 40, 14
CONTROL "キャンセル", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 70, 40, 40, 14
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src/lang/winfile_ja-JP.dlg
@@ -145,7 +145,7 @@ BEGIN
CONTROL "はい(&Y)", IDYES, "button", BS_DEFPUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 33, 73, 40, 14
CONTROL "全て(&A)", IDD_YESALL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 79, 73, 40, 14
CONTROL "いいえ(&N)", IDNO, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 125, 73, 40, 14
CONTROL "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 171, 73, 40, 14
CONTROL "キャンセル", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 171, 73, 40, 14
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src/lang/winfile_ja-JP.dlg
@@ -674,7 +674,7 @@ STYLE WS_BORDER | DS_MODALFRAME | WS_CAPTION | WS_DLGFRAME | WS_POPUP | WS_SYSME
BEGIN
CONTROL "ファイルを印刷中...", -1, "static", SS_CENTER | WS_GROUP | WS_CHILD, 4, 6, 120, 12
CONTROL "", IDD_TEXT, "static", SS_CENTER | SS_NOPREFIX | WS_GROUP | WS_CHILD, 4, 20, 120, 12
CONTROL "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ", 2, "button", BS_DEFPUSHBUTTON | WS_GROUP | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 44, 40, 32, 14
CONTROL "キャンセル", 2, "button", BS_DEFPUSHBUTTON | WS_GROUP | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 44, 40, 32, 14
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src/lang/winfile_ja-JP.dlg
@@ -691,7 +691,7 @@ BEGIN
CONTROL "移動先:", -1, "static", SS_RIGHT | WS_CHILD, 5, 42, 50, 11
CONTROL "", IDD_DIR, "edit", ES_READONLY | ES_LEFT | ES_AUTOHSCROLL | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 57, 42, 130, 12
CONTROL "OK", IDOK, "button", BS_DEFPUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 205, 4, 40, 14
CONTROL "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 205, 20, 40, 14
CONTROL "キャンセル", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_TABSTOP | WS_CHILD, 205, 20, 40, 14
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src/lang/winfile_ja-JP.dlg
@@ -759,7 +759,7 @@ BEGIN
#endif
PUSHBUTTON "ブラウズ(&B)...", IDD_BROWSE, 130, 24, 47, 14
DEFPUSHBUTTON "OK", IDOK, 187, 6, 62, 14, WS_GROUP
PUSHBUTTON "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ", IDCANCEL, 187, 23, 62, 14
PUSHBUTTON "キャンセル", IDCANCEL, 187, 23, 62, 14
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src/lang/winfile_ja-JP.dlg
@@ -835,7 +835,7 @@ BEGIN
CONTROL "これらの変更の中には再起動後に有効になる物があります。\n注意して下さい。",
IDD_TEXT, "static", SS_LEFT | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_GROUP, 15, 90, 200, 20
CONTROL "OK", IDOK, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_TABSTOP, 55, 120, 40, 14
CONTROL "ｷｬﾝｾﾙ", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_TABSTOP, 103, 120, 40, 14
CONTROL "キャンセル", IDCANCEL, "button", BS_PUSHBUTTON | WS_CHILD | WS_VISIBLE | WS_TABSTOP, 103, 120, 40, 14
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My review remainded.

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I reviewd your transration.
Please make additional corrections.
(lang/res_ja-JP.rc)

Line 338
FROM:
"ディレクスト %s が存在しません。\n\n作成しますか?"

TO:
"ディレクトリ %s が存在しません。\n\n作成しますか?"

Line 111～ Line 113
FROM:
MENUITEM "縦に重ねる(&C)\tShift+F5", IDM_CASCADE
MENUITEM "横に並べる(&H)", IDM_TILEHORIZONTALLY
MENUITEM "縦に並べる(&T)\tShift+F4", IDM_TILE

TO:
MENUITEM "重ねて表示(&C)\tShift+F5", IDM_CASCADE
MENUITEM "上下に並べて表示(&H)", IDM_TILEHORIZONTALLY
MENUITEM "並べて表示(&T)\tShift+F4", IDM_TILE

Line 605～ Line 607
FROM:
MH_MYITEMS+IDM_CASCADE, "縦に重ねる"
MH_MYITEMS+IDM_TILEHORIZONTALLY, "横に並べる"
MH_MYITEMS+IDM_TILE, "縦に並べる"

TO:
MH_MYITEMS+IDM_CASCADE, "重ねて表示する"
MH_MYITEMS+IDM_TILEHORIZONTALLY, "上下に並べて表示する"
MH_MYITEMS+IDM_TILE, "並べて表示する"

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I guess we may revert all changes about half-width katakanas, making this PR a "smaller but urgent" one...

Half-width katakanas and many other old-fashioned translations were here for historical reasons, so I would like to know @craigwims and others' opinion in a more general way: are we going to preserve original old-fashioned translations as much as possible or to adopt modern ones whenever suitable?

To do so we need the approval of all currently active Japanese speaking contributors: ...

...I don't speak Japanese either, so I may just give some ideas and let them two to decide.

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I understood @Takym in #358 that #272 is about to bring all to full width katakana, because this is the state of the art and Explorer and the like are also in full width.

Primarily we should move winfile into the new world. Full width is one step.

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I understood @Takym in #358 that #272 is about to bring all to full width katakana, because this is the state of the art and Explorer and the like are also in full width.

Primarily we should move winfile into the new world. Full width is one step.

but there is still some work to do, for example checking every button's width, since full-width version is (almost) 2x longer.

In the worst case it may be hard to maintain two flavours (half- or full-) elegantly using that code, because of different width between them (buttons either too big for half-width or not enough for full-width, or both)

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Fixed res_ja-JP.rc
e8a42c2 
- "ディレクスト" ---> "ディレクトリ"
- "ディレクトリー" ---> "ディレクトリ"
- "セキュリティー" ---> "セキュリティ"
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src/lang/res_ja-JP.rc
@@ -417,7 +418,7 @@ JAPANEND

IDS_DRAG_COPYING "%s へファイルをコピー中"
IDS_DRAG_MOVING "%s へファイルを移動中"
IDS_DRAG_LINKING "ファイルを ％s にリンクする"
IDS_DRAG_LINKING "ファイルを %s にリンクする"
IDS_DRAG_EXECUTING "%s でファイルを実行中"

IDS_ORDERB "%s バイト"
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I think "%s バイト" should be "%s B" for symmetry. What do you think?

Other units:

    IDS_ORDERKB                 "%s KB"
    IDS_ORDERMB                 "%s MB"
    IDS_ORDERGB                 "%s GB"
    IDS_ORDERTB                 "%s TB"

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However, the byte unit is labeled "%s bytes" in English.

winfile/src/lang/res_en-US.rc

Lines 425 to 429 in 1f796ed

IDS_ORDERB "%s bytes"
IDS_ORDERKB "%sKB"
IDS_ORDERMB "%sMB"
IDS_ORDERGB "%sGB"
IDS_ORDERTB "%sTB"

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I think IDS_ORDERB's transration is "%s バイト".
I think it is better to match the expression in english and other language.

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The [Option] > [Toolbar] menu is garbled in Japanese, but the [Option] > [Customize Toolbar...] menu is not garbled.
In this PR, these two texts are actually "ツール バー" and source is below:

winfile/src/lang/res_ja-JP.rc

Lines 87 to 90 in 7568ef5

MENUITEM "ツール バーのカスタマイズ(&B)...", IDM_TOOLBARCUST
MENUITEM "追加の設定(&P)", IDM_PREF
MENUITEM SEPARATOR
MENUITEM "ツール バー(&T)", IDM_TOOLBAR

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Postscript: I did not change "ツール バー" texts.

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Takym commented Nov 15, 2022

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The full-width "キャンセル" is fit to cancel buttons. I guess because winfile uses the proportional font MS UI Gothic.

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The [Option] > [Toolbar] menu is garbled in Japanese, but the [Option] > [Customize Toolbar...] menu is not garbled. In this PR, these two texts are actually "ツール バー" and source is below:

That's odd

I played a bit with indenting the text in the .rc file and if you take the .rc file from this commit 36128be then it works

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This seems to be a bug in the resource compiler

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Takym commented Nov 16, 2022

@schinagl I merged your workaround. Thanks.

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Takym commented Nov 16, 2022

I found a similar bug in the search box, and I fixed it.
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Are we good to go now with this PR?

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Takym commented Nov 16, 2022

I would like @tokomio-sun to re-review my changes.

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Thank you to your work.
I re-reviewed.

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@@ -417,7 +418,7 @@ JAPANEND

IDS_DRAG_COPYING "%s へファイルをコピー中"
IDS_DRAG_MOVING "%s へファイルを移動中"
IDS_DRAG_LINKING "ファイルを ％s にリンクする"
IDS_DRAG_LINKING "ファイルを %s にリンクする"
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This translation has fixed in #355.
Please merge.

From:
'ファイルを %s にリンクする'

To:
'%s にファイルをリンク中'

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I have merged #355.

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Thank you for your cooperation.

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Thanks to all contributors here for the great collaboration. Merging now.

@craigwims craigwims merged commit 8b397ba into microsoft:master Nov 17, 2022
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Thank you all for merging!

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Update Japanese Translation (#272)
f4fdee6 
* Update res_ja-JP.rc

* Update suggest_ja-JP.db

* Update winfile_ja-JP.dlg

* Change "子ディレクトリ" to "サブディレクトリ"

* Change "作業ディレクトリ" to "現在のディレクトリ"

* Fix japanese dialog text for creating SymbolicLink, Hardlinks and Junctions

* fix-line.420

* fix japanese translation (Line 420)

* Convert Full Width ％ to Half Width %

* Fixed res_ja-JP.rc
- "ディレクスト" ---> "ディレクトリ"
- "ディレクトリー" ---> "ディレクトリ"
- "セキュリティー" ---> "セキュリティ"

* Fixed `res_ja-JP.rc` (window arrangement)

* Fix Japanese garbling

* Fix garbling at the search box (Japanese)

Co-authored-by: tokomio-sun <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: schinagl <[email protected]>
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