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title: PLUG Committee Meeting 2024-07-16
date: 2024-07-16
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## 0. Opening
* Meeting opened by Nick at 19:54 PM
* VENUE: Online
* Present: JamesH, NickB, DanB, BenjaminIDS
* Apologies: Niall (resigned)
* Absent: Lochy
* Guest:

* `bbb-2021` server needed a restart
* backup was `mumble.plug.org.au`

## 1. Confirmation of Previous Minutes
* https://www.plug.org.au/events/committee/2024/05-21/
* https://plugorgau.github.io/events/committee/2024/05-21/
* https://plugorgau.github.io/events/committee/2024/06-18/
* Proposed by James, seconded by Dan. Passed.

## 2. Next Committee Meeting
* Tuesday 2024-08-20T18:30 , in person
* VENUE: James' place

## 3. Reports & Standing Items
* Recruiting/co-opting more committee members: see Correspondence
* and/or general meeting?
* GM may not be warranted if we get some extras
* GM would probably have to be no sooner than October, which would be 3 months to January
* Ben finishing study in 2024-09, so may not be in most events until graduating

* Financial Situation
* Balances:
* Cash box (at Sarah's)
* Banking done, $198.95 current, $598.95 at start of 2024
* Business Debit Card
* $94.82
* Bank Balance
* $3212.25

* About time to renew our standing motion authority to top-up the transaction account with debit card access - raise the target?

* Membership Situation as of 2024-03-19
- ? new members, ? returned, ? renewals
- Need to nudge new attendees towards formal financial membership
- Current Paid Members 26, was 25 at AGM
- Expired Members 333, was 332 at AGM
- Members on meetup.com 605, was 472 at AGM

* Correspondance
* Interest in PLUG committee co-option
```
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:02:04 +0800
From: Harry McNally <[email protected]>
To: PLUG Committee <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [plug-ctte] Your PLUG Membership is Expiring
```
```
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 06:38:39 +0200 (CEST)
From: [email protected]
To: Committee <[email protected]>
Subject: [plug-ctte] Committee - Expression of interest
```
* MOTION: Co-opt Harry McNally and Michael Collins to the PLUG committee
* Proposed by Ben, seconded by James. Passed unanimously.
* Next meeting: Review committee roles

## 4. Events Status
* Review of recent events:
* July 2024
* Second Tuesday 2024-07-09
* Ops meeting, social chat
* Second Sunday 2024-07-14 PLUG+POSH

* Upcoming events:
* July 2024
* PLUG-in-the-Pub Wednesday 2024-07-24: Brotzeit
* Joondalup Lakeside Shopping City, 420 Joondalup Drive Joondalup WA 6027
* https://www.joondalupbrotzeit.com.au/
* 18:00 start (but happy hour is available, 16:00--17:00)

* August 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-08-11 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2024-08-13
* Placeholder, look for outings, work visits; or infra workshop
* Roundtable/panel style meetings? plus a shared hedgedoc/hackmd doc, like the focus-on-privacy 2022-07-12 (https://demo.hedgedoc.org/ej7SEkdMT6iop8QgRePtcA)
* (Broad focus is good, something most people can have an opinion on)
* Seed the agenda document with background
* Possible topics:
* AI
* Convince me that macOS is better than Linux
* E2EE
* NixOS vs GUIX
* D.E.I. in Free Software
* Show and tell: Development environments: e.g. VSCode / EMACS / Vim / NeoVIM configurations
* Free Software news
* ...?
* 11 August 2024
Harry and Nick during HACK Day at Artifactory proposed that Tuesday Riff/SpaceCubed would cbe confirmed as an infrastructure meeting with a specifc task to set up unlimited mailman access for PLUG members.The event will be advertised to encourage members to attend so they can reset passwords and learn about using mailman.

"
This Tuesday the Riff/Spacecubed event will be an infrastructure event
"

* September 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-09-08 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2024-09-10
* Infra workshop/busybee?
* PLUG-in-the-Pub
* piratebar.com.au is closed permanently! :(
* Let's go to Darling Darling/Fremantle West pubs
* https://visitfremantle.com.au/darling-darling-0
* Tuesday 2024-09-17: cheap [email protected] ?
* Close to: ITLAPD Thursday 2024-09-19, https://digitalfreedoms.org/sfd

* October 2024
* Second Tuesday 2024-10-08
* ACTION: James: Check JasperG's schedule?
* General meeting? 3 months to AGM
* MOTION: Hold a general meeting on Second Tuesday 2024-10-08
* Proposed by Nick, seconded by Dan. Passed unanimously.
* Maybe agenda: continue meetup.com ? other services? Sponsorship?
* Second Sunday 2024-10-13 PLUG+POSH

* November 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-11-10 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2024-11-12
* Placeholder, look for outings, work visits; or infra workshop
* https://dddperth.com/ , Saturday 2024-11-16
* PLUG-in-the-Pub
* Might be due for a central? maybe Hygge Bar?

* December 2024
* Second Sunday 2024-12-08 Xmas BBQ + PLUG+POSH ?
* Special invite, past committee&friends

* January 2025
* Second Sunday 2025-01-12 PLUG+POSH
* Second Tuesday 2025-01-14 AGM
* Monday 2025-01-20 -- Wednesday 2025-01-22 https://2025.everythingopen.au/
* Adelaide Convention Centre, North Tce 5000, https://adelaidecc.com.au/
* https://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2024-June/024557.html
* PLUG-in-the-Pub

* Future talks?
* JasperG is up for an informal or panel style "presentation", as of 2024-06-11,17
* Linux gaming: Portal: Story of Mel native vs Proton?
* Margaret: EMACS-based UIs for database applications (not until 2023)
* Yuchen: Haskell-code-explorer (unlikely to be ready in 2023)
* Locutus: Ian Clarke (Contact)
* Aidan - Graphics work (Confirm Sat 2024-01-20) (Not at this stage)
* Other event info moved here for non actionable items. https://hackmd.io/O85j6jvpR8SlIKln1UD_AQ

## 5. General Business & Matters Arising

* ACTION: Event promotion: team effort - see previous minutes for details, e.g. https://github.com/plugorgau/plugorgau.github.io/blob/master/content/minutes/2021-05-18-minutes.md#5-general-business--matters-arising
* Meetup/Google calendar
* `Matt Richardson <[email protected]>` ACTION: Promote relevant events on events.raspberrypi.com , need "Raspberry Pi ID"
* facebook?
* X?
* Benjamin: Willing to post PLUG posters

* meetup.com , expecting invoice from Artifactory
* Price has gone up to $265/6 months (USD$44.99/month, USD$178.99/6 months, USD$299.99/12 months)
* https://www.meetup.com/blog/new-organizer-pricing-key-improvements/

* New treasurer required, Sarah stepping down as per email dated 2024-06-12
* Acting Treasurer: Nick
* S10.8, committee can appoint (co-opt) members to fill casual vacancies
* ACTION: James to ask on mailing list for expressions of interest - done!

* Benjamin (Wings) requested that we shut down the `edison` Digital Ocean droplet
* Just wants to get it off his billing, but more than happy to give like 30 days grace.
* ACTION: Nick: Question: Can we pay the bill in the meantime?
* Wings: happy to offer as many VMs as we want on Riff Labs
* ACTION: BenjaminIDS: ask Wings: can we get an IP? for DNS hosting, mumble? done!
* answer: yes!

* ACTION: XXX: Update PLUG addresses + update the address associated with the ABN (via ATO.gov.au?), ASIC (was this BenjaminA's new address?)
* Who/what/where to contact next?
* https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/ , "Perth Linux User Group" ABN 58233849580
* 2021 was President's address
* Bank using Treasurer's address
* TODO: Create a GovID (not a personal one)

* New reporting requirements for tax-exempt not-for-profit organisations.
* https://www.ato.gov.au/Non-profit/Newsroom/General/Straight-from-the-source---August-2022/
* ACTION: XXX to fill in online form
* https://associations.commerce.wa.gov.au/
* Reports done up to 2023, next will be due post-AGM-2024-01

* Can we create a [PayID](https://payid.com.au/) for the PLUG bank account? This would be less error prone than typing the BSB + account number. We could create PayIDs for committee email address and maybe also ABN.
* http://lists.plug.org.au/mailman/private/committee/2021-June/010370.html
* Ask Bendigo Bank again, post-AGM-2024
* https://www.bendigobank.com.au/ways-to-bank/real-time-payments/using-payid
* Interesting bearing accounts: only 1.45% at Bendigo, others have it at 5%+

* aws.amazon.com
* Bill due first few days of each month
* ACTION: (late 2023?) Niall/Nick: Contact Developer Marketing Manager for an event speaker+swag: quiz
* Plan is for PLUG to take over digitalocean.com bill directly: see below

- ACTION: Grants: AV? Linux Australia? Lotterywest? Commercial sponsors?
- https://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2024-June/024561.html
- Ephemeral BBB instance, e.g. https://demo.bigbluebutton.org/gl/m-s-e73-zvh-5hy but with our own single-meeting build, run&record, download and teardown workflow
- update mailing lists: moderators
- admin/committee busybee items: get people using bulk actions on mailing lists

* ACTION: Domain renewal is due again: plug.org.au: done!
* All agreed for the bill to be paid under the standing cloud expenses
* Accidentally paid twice, Tim@2024-06-29 says: credit is good for next year
* ACTION: Nick: Reply

## 6. New General Business

- Stocktake of our Pi gear and quiz prizes
- quiz this year or not? car rally? movie outing?
- Recent memberships/renewals: all timely processed?
- Current members mailing list: tested and able
to be preloaded with a list of current financial members?
- Minutes: published and deployed to the website
- Mailman as a member service .. howto ?

- Committee handover
- Bank
- ACTION: James: Update signatories, add James: CBD branch, early 2024-06?
- ACTION: Add PayID
- ACTION: Update PLUG addresses + update the address associated with the ABN (via ATO.gov.au?), ASIC (N.B. BenjaminA's new address)
- [ABN Search](https://www.abn.business.gov.au/ABN/View?abn=58233849580) shows current address at postcode 6153
- ACTION: XX: Set AWS address
- Membership processing

## 7. Meeting closed by Nick at 10:01

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