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Support yank a package with a message #9193
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FWIW I'm not sure whether we should add this to the existing yank API ( |
I kind of agree with this because we don't actually delete anything; we just update the yank status.
I am a little worried about going this way. It means that if the other registries want to follow this API spec, they will need to introduce a new API or method as well. |
yes, that would be the consequence, but I don't think fixing the mistakes of the past is necessarily a bad idea in this case. |
Because this API change could potentially introduce a new API to all registries, I want to summarize the current situation and specify the new API we want to add. Current API
New API
In this new API, we can ask the client to send an HTTP body: {
"yanked"?: true,
"yank_reason"?: "some-reason"
} Also, in the future, if we want to add more fields or information to provide users with additional details about this version of yanked, we can easily include it in this JSON. MotivationThe new API is being introduced because the Same as the 'unyank' API, the 'PUT' method usually indicates that we want to add new resources. However, in this case, we are just changing the state of that particular version to unyanked. If we can use the Pros
Cons
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What is the plan for other "patch like" changes to a crate version? For example editing the "description" or "maintenance"? I only ask because the same argument would suggest that they also are
Separately, how should cargo determine when to use the new endpoint? This needs to be made explicit because it also applies to all other registries. |
I think we should try not to introduce such a feature, because we should try to make sure that its meta information is consistent with the information in Cargo.toml. For If we do want to update this information in the future, I don't think it affects the semantics of our API, you can use an API to update any information about this version(crate). |
This is a really good question, I guess we can use https://doc.rust-lang.org/cargo/reference/registry-index.html#index-configuration to set it explicitly. |
There is a strong need for mutable metadata in addition to yank. Interest in exploring that is one of the reasons we had pushed back on a yank-specific solution for the entire stack of this to cargo and wanted to hold off to see how things evolved. Besides that, making a generic end point only work with one specific purpose is very limiting. We don't think we need it at this point but we need to specify how we expect to evolve this end point. Also, the specification for a new API should also specify when a client should know that the registry supports the new API. Overall, I wonder if we should go through an RFC for this to make sure we are gettting wider input on the process of evolving the registry API, at least we need to make sure we get alternative registries involved. |
I agree with @Rustin170506 that anything parsed from the
the API would be idempotent. if the requested value change is already in the database then nothing happens, if an update is necessary then that "field" of the version will be updated accordingly. you can either only change the yank field, or change another field (tbd), or change both at the same, etc.
my understanding is that cargo has special cases for crates.io, so for our specific registry this shouldn't be a problem. how to discover this for other registries I don't know. we may end up having to build a full registry capabilities system or go with @Rustin170506's suggestion of adding this to the
I 💯 agree, and that is precisely why I suggested the more generic
IMHO that depends on whether we make this API part of the registry contract or not. for experimentation purposes on the crates.io API and the crates.io frontend we don't need to specify these things yet. these will only become relevant once cargo wants to interact with it, and even then it is my understanding that cargo already special-cases crates.io for various reasons?
I agree that a change to the registry API contract should probably go through the RFC process, but I don't think that is necessarily blocking experimentation on our side and building the functionality into our frontend. in fact, such experimentation would probably improve the RFC since it isn't written in a vacuum and can benefit from first-hand experience with a suggested solution. |
Going back to https://blog.rust-lang.org/inside-rust/2024/03/26/this-development-cycle-in-cargo-1.78.html#why-is-this-yanked, we list out
We at least have "broken builds" as a per-version use case. rustsec security advisories is not on the list but that would also be per-version (unsure if we'd want to pull from a single source which might be better for third-party registries or multiple sources). For today's workflows, unmaintained and deprecated are per-crate but I think there is value in exploring supporting per-version. Example: Today, some people treat "non-latest" as unmaintained / deprecated which was a point of content when discussing an MSRV-aware resolver. With an MSRV-aware resolver, I'm considering maintaining LTS releases where it makes sense to bump a minor version's MSRV above my project's overall MSRV. It would be a big help to explicitly state the maintenance status to the user, rather than assuming. For clap, I already have LTS support (only on major versions) but I only have documentation to report that to my users and Cargo can only treat it like any other stale version. |
So the question is whether the Cargo team is ok with special casing our yanked calls for crates.io until we have third-party registry support for this API. For myself and on my initial pass, I'm against this
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During yesterday's meeting regarding crates.io, we discussed the issue briefly. The crates.io team is still considering conducting some experimentation on the crates.io platform first. We will only allow cookie authentication to access this API. This precaution will help us prevent exposing this new API to other clients (who access crates.io with a token), in order to avoid dependency and usage.
I don't think we will do it. After we implemented it and tested it on crates.io. I will file an RFC to discuss how it interacts with Cargo and what the final API looks like.
As @Turbo87 mentioned, this API can be used not only for the yank message feature but also to update other statuses. (if we need/have, right now we only have yanked status and yank message). |
@Turbo87 For "Add support on the browser frontend for giving a reason," do you have any thoughts on the UI/UX for this? My current idea is to have a modal where users can enter the yank message after clicking the yank button. What do you think? Any suggestions? |
I'm personally not a big fan of modal dialogs since they are very tricky to implement correctly, especially from an accessibility point of view. I've worked on https://github.com/mainmatter/ember-promise-modals in the past, and I'm still not 100% sure if we're doing everything correctly there 😅 My first thought was to use a new full-page route for the message input and the confirmation button, but I'm not sure how well that would integrate into the existing page structure, so on second thought I'm not so sure anymore about that plan 😂 in other words: I'm open to suggestions :) |
that's also the reason why the crate report and the support page were ultimately implemented as new pages 😉 |
As we proposed in https://rust-lang.github.io/rust-project-goals/2024h2/yank-crates-with-a-reason.html.
We want to allow other owners to yank a package with a message.
The motivation here is that when a crate is updated to address a critical issue — such as a fix for a soundness bug or a security vulnerability—it is beneficial to yank previous versions and prompts users to upgrade with a yank reason. Additionally, if a crate is renamed or deprecated, the yank message can provide guidance on the new recommended crate or version. This ensures that users are aware of necessary updates and can maintain the security and stability of their projects.
So in crates.io, we need to at least support passing a message to the yank API.
I believe we should begin with a simple, length-limited plain text first. But we should also consider the extensibility to allow us to support more structured messages.
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